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TonyM
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Thanks for posting the pics John. I used to have one of it and my trailer, prior to turning it over, as my avatar, but changed to the K100 with my ugly face in it recently. The ones from H'ville were after the wreck. Now has a window in the back of the sleeper. It is a very fun truck that surprises most with the power and fuel economy, and lack of black smoke from an old truck.

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Thanks John,  Really nice Pete and dig those early 4 round headlights.

359er

Com''on Earl, lets send them chickens on down the other side. 

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Hello,

First, welcome to the forum.

Second, I don't know too much about these (to me) exotic trucks, but were they not available with air suspension from new? Would it be possible to use modern bags/valves etc. on them?

As for other comfort inducing measures, a good dose of noise/heat insulation, modern seats, aircon plus stand-alone heater from someone like Eberspächer would go a long way...

Good luck with it.

Cheers,

T


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Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:21 AM by Tatra
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Heres Tony's Pete.John
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Tony, Please post a pic of your Pete 359 for us to see.

359er

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Heres a '67 brochure from Clayton Hoak's collection that shows the cab, doghouse, and shift tower fairly well.

A Series 60 / Argosy combo might allow for that shifter setup, but it would take a little tape measure work. The Series 60 sits low, but I dont know if its as low as a 6-71.

I wouldnt be worried too much about the cab mounting setup as long as they both ( the Jimmy and the donor ) have straight frame rails.On a swap like this, everything above the frame rails gets swapped from the old frame to the new frame, that means front mounts, rear mounts, everything that touches the cab.Lots of careful measuring and drilling, but youre going to have extra holes when youre done unless you just replace the rails.

If I had a good budget to play with I would find an original twin screw 8V71 tractor sitting on hendrickson suspension, as late a year as possible.I'd replace the rails with new ones and think about updating the steer axle/steer suspension/steering box  ( front clip ) to something that might be a little easier to get parts for in another ten years, like an Argosy air ride setup.I'd replace the rears with late model Meritors with 4 way locks, but keep the walking beams with an air ride conversion from Hendrickson or Raydan  http://www.raydanmfg.com/?page=about&section=whyAirLink   http://www.hendrickson-intl.com/products/product_detail/ar2.asp   A custom radiator from Detroit  http://detroitradiatorcorp.com/  They dont show it on their website, but they make custom high fin count radiators.They could build one that would work well in the space availible.They build custom air to air units too.I'd go with an electronic 8V92 for reliability and fuel mileage.The electronic 8V92 truck engine puts out 500 hp @ 2,100 and 1,470 ft lbs @ 1,200, the fuel mileage would never eqaul a Series 60 but it would be better than a mechanical 8V92.If I had enough in the budget I would do a full port and polished top end, balanced bottom end, with full coatings and a Jack Biven's 8V96 stroker setup ( read it all, theres more mods than just stroke leangth ), then set it up with twin  turbos using the rear mount industrial twins setup.Set the ECM to the 600hp industrial DDEC III specs and youre good to go.Lots more fun than a Series 60, lol. John
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Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:30 AM by Eddy Lucast moderator
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The Crackerbox is a bit of an unusual truck to try to update. I have actually contemplated a 11.1 60 series in one but have way too many projects to get serious on it yet. Like John said, the Argosy might be the best starting point. Finding a place to get the air to air pipes by the doghouse might be a problem, but it could be overcome somehow. I'd try to stay with a Detroit (60 series) for size constraints since they are a bit smaller than the others, and lighter.  Yoyu mentioned others in the woods, should you come about more, I am in need of a few parts such as a decent left door. I'm not to far east near Montgomery. Being from that part of MS I don't suppose you broker through GraRock or Grainmart? I see a lot of MS trucks loading lime products in the Birmingham area going back home. I pull a 36' East end dump with a 1978 359 Pete repowered with a 14L 60 Series. Makes trucking just a little more fun to have an old truck. Good Luck.

Tony Martin - Secretary West Georgia Chapter ATHS
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I 20,  anything can be done.  There was a Crackerbox that sold on ebay about 3 years ago that had a 400 big cam in it.  Just like other poster mentioned they have hell of a cab tilting set up to put on another frame.  Plus,  you will not be able to use a late model radiator because of limited width.   If I was you and wanted to try to run one,  I would go with a big cam cummins.  No electronic junk.  Would be very difficult to run hose/pipe for an air to air set up, not to mention no space for the air to air unit itself.   I am a crackerbox nut also,  so be sure to keep us updated.  You in the Meridian area?

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An 8V-92 might fit in where a 8V-71 did but the frame on most crackerboxes might not be up to it. GMC built some highly modified Crackerbox day cabs with 12V-71'S in them and big rears.I agree what the Junknman said build a fire under the 6-71. Joe D.

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