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Question on driving an antique heavy truck without CDL as a Kentucky Resident

Posted By Ketronj281989 Monday, February 07, 2022 6:49 AM
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 Posted Sunday, February 13, 2022 1:20 AM
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Thank you all for the responses. Good information to consider for sure. I may wait for now.

Jon
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Don't worry about it. Here in the Buckeye, years ago, one of our members Jim Bowser (God rest his soul) was stopped and ticketed for operating his antique plated Acar without a commercial license. He went to court and beat it. He was not, and you won't be operating commercially. As a side note, I have operated antique class 8 tractors pulling trailers loaded with antique trucks, tractors, and construction equipment thousands of miles through many states, including yours, and never had a problem. But if a scale is open, I pull in and cross them. I figure it's best not to tempt fate and have them question me blowing by a scale and sending out a Barny Fife to pull me over.





Great story BUT---- If you get the wrong cop, he can impound the vehicle for not having a "qualified" operator. or forbid the movement until qualified operator is behind the wheel. At that point winning in court is a moot point.
Most all states if not all follow the federal system. Passenger car license have weight limits and brake limits that have nothing to do with if the vehicle is commercial or not. There can be some carve outs for RV's. It is not a matter I agree with or not, but real world experience.
If you are out of state reciprocity agreements can work in your favor, most cops from another state will not question what your state allows. In state is another matter. I have been called out to move a vehicle that the cop determined was above the driver qualifies for. didn't matter it wasn't "commercial".
Whether the above driver won in court didn't change the fact that I had to move the truck.
It is also why the ATHS had "exemption letters" for people moving trucks to shows.
Being right in court doesn't help you on the side of the road. Better to be able to present something to back up your claim.
Indignation that a cop should know the law, while understandable. will not help you get you on the way.
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Dennis is right!!! Pull into the scale so they can see your Antique/Historical plate... Usually if they pull you around back it is because they want to get a closer look at the Antique truck!!

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Don't worry about it. Here in the Buckeye, years ago, one of our members Jim Bowser (God rest his soul) was stopped and ticketed for operating his antique plated Acar without a commercial license. He went to court and beat it. He was not, and you won't be operating commercially. As a side note, I have operated antique class 8 tractors pulling trailers loaded with antique trucks, tractors, and construction equipment thousands of miles through many states, including yours, and never had a problem. But if a scale is open, I pull in and cross them. I figure it's best not to tempt fate and have them question me blowing by a scale and sending out a Barny Fife to pull me over.

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First thought is to contact the president of an ATHS chapter in KY>>He should know and/or know where to get the answer...

The key word in CDL is "Commercial"!! If neither the vehicle nor the operator is being compensated in any way, in a lot of States that exempts you..

Also instead of going to the DMV, go to your "Diesel Cops" in whatever name they operate under in KY.. They should have the rules written out better than bureaucrats in the DMV. Our "Transport Police" in SC have a public relations officer who can answer this type of question. We have even had him give a presentation at our ATHS Chapter meeting.

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If the DMV doesn't know, what are the chances the cop that has you pulled over will know or care? Unless you can get someone at the DMV to put it in writing on DMV letter head to carry with you, and even that is no guarantee that the cop on the road will accept it.
Cops don't like exceptions to rules (other than for themselves), if you are going out of the norm, documentation is key.
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Hello all,

I am new here and have a question please. I am looking into purchasing a Mack B-75 from the 1950's. I know the GWVR is over 26,001 and would technically qualify for me to have a Class A or B CDL.

My question is in the state of Kentucky do I need to have a CDL license to drive such truck with air brakes as long as I have it registered and licensed as an antique vehicle? I have looked everywhere for a Kentucky answer with no success. The basic DMV stated that I had to have one. I don't think they really looked into the matter. They even stated they didn't know at first. Old topics on this forum would indicate I do not. Not able to find anything for Kentucky as of yet.

Thank you for all the help!

Jon
Monday, February 07, 2022 6:53 AM by Ketronj281989

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