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Paystar 5000 restoration

Posted By dieselcollecta Saturday, October 22, 2011 10:42 PM
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Did some research today & found some old pictures of my Paystar in 4 of its' previous owner color schemes. Awesome stuff!!! I remember the truck now from years ago & didn't realise it was the same truck I had!!!

McConnell Dowell had this truck back early in its life, I remember seeing it often in the 70s when I was still going to school.

Russell Plant owned it for a while straight after that, & they were in my home town!!

I never knew where it went from there but the other 2 pictures fill some gaps.


Marlena (AKA Marly) from the Waikato in New Zealand.

1975 Inter Paystar 5070 (with 1982 8V-71T)
1978 12V-71 engine
1996 Inter Acco 2350G (with Cummins 6BTA-275)
2003 Inter 7600 chassis

Also restoring at my work
1980 White Road Boss (with 3406B)
1983 White Road Commander (with NTC-350)
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Friday, March 02, 2012 12:23 AM by dieselcollecta
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Interesting stuff! Well obviously my steel cab is not worth repairing & for the light service it'll see in the future an alloy cab would be the best choice by far. Anybody know of a good cab in the Alabama area (& maybe a 4300 hood also?), we will be importing a couple of new Pinson grain bins in a few weeks time & I could slip one onto the flat rack as there will be a bit of extra space.

Marlena (AKA Marly) from the Waikato in New Zealand.

1975 Inter Paystar 5070 (with 1982 8V-71T)
1978 12V-71 engine
1996 Inter Acco 2350G (with Cummins 6BTA-275)
2003 Inter 7600 chassis

Also restoring at my work
1980 White Road Boss (with 3406B)
1983 White Road Commander (with NTC-350)
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binder (2/18/2012)

My opinion is the steel cab is stronger, but they also rot out sooner. The aluminum cab has a tendency for the rivets to work lose after time.


That is what happened with my truck, the rear cab corners and where the cab mounts to the frame rotted from "New England road cancer". The brochure I got also answered my question of why the doors on my truck were aluminum. 

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1974 International Transtar Eagle 4270
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My 77 4300 came with a steel cab. It was a glider kit and I was told at one time that all glider kits were steel cabs unless ordered with aluminum. I was wondering if it had something to do with which plant they were assembled. Mine was made in Fort Wayne ,IN. The two line set sheets I have for 1984 show made in Chatham,Ontario. They are both aluminum cabs. I think they made some in Emeryville,CA. also.

A 9300 cab is basically the same structure, but has mounts about 4" taller than the 4300 cab. I'm not sure if they mount to the cab the same.

My opinion is the steel cab is stronger, but they also rot out sooner. The aluminum cab has a tendency for the rivets to work lose after time.

1977 International 4300
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According to the 1973 brochure and supplement that I bought from Canada on eBay  last week, the cabs for the 1973 year for 4200/4300 were steel and aluminum was an option. Here is each page of the supplement with the data. 

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I may be wrong, but I think the Paystar's got the steel cab while the 4200 and 4300 got the aluminum. The steel was supposed to hold up better in rough service.
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dieselcollecta (2/17/2012)
Dan, can you tell me when International switched from the steel cab to the alloy, I'm figuring it must have been mid seventies. Or were both options available for a time?
 



My '74 is an aluminum cab,,,  and the '73 I had a lifetime ago was also..    Maybe Binder will let us know what year the steel cabs ended.

'74 IH 4370
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junkmandan (2/17/2012)
Murray-----I don't know for sure,but in the 42/4300 era I think it was either/or .  The newer 9300 I think was always aluminum but some seem to have some fiberglass from the dash up . I've seen wrecks in junkyards or at truck body shops where the windshield posts were fiberglass . I don't know if that included the cab roof .


Thanks for that Dan, I'll look closely & compare before buying. I'm also unsure about dimensions & placement of mountings differences between old & new models. So I'll be making sure I have tape measure in back pocket, hahaha. I'm seriously considering lengthening that fibreglass hood & slipping my 12V under it, so I really need to sort the cab before getting too far along.


Marlena (AKA Marly) from the Waikato in New Zealand.

1975 Inter Paystar 5070 (with 1982 8V-71T)
1978 12V-71 engine
1996 Inter Acco 2350G (with Cummins 6BTA-275)
2003 Inter 7600 chassis

Also restoring at my work
1980 White Road Boss (with 3406B)
1983 White Road Commander (with NTC-350)
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Murray-----I don't know for sure,but in the 42/4300 era I think it was either/or .  The newer 9300 I think was always aluminum but some seem to have some fiberglass from the dash up . I've seen wrecks in junkyards or at truck body shops where the windshield posts were fiberglass . I don't know if that included the cab roof .
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Dan, can you tell me when International switched from the steel cab to the alloy, I'm figuring it must have been mid seventies. Or were both options available for a time?

Marlena (AKA Marly) from the Waikato in New Zealand.

1975 Inter Paystar 5070 (with 1982 8V-71T)
1978 12V-71 engine
1996 Inter Acco 2350G (with Cummins 6BTA-275)
2003 Inter 7600 chassis

Also restoring at my work
1980 White Road Boss (with 3406B)
1983 White Road Commander (with NTC-350)

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