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By Swishy - Friday, September 10, 2010 9:00 PM
OK Guyz
the §wish is looking for History and years produced of the Kenworth COE
early on there twaz a round nose COE much like a Pete ? Wot year? n wot model twaz it called
then a Bullnose Year? twaz it a tilt cab?
Cab Suround Engine CSE Year? twaz it a tilt cab?
Cab Beside Engine CBE Year? twaz it a tilt cab?
Early K model? with the lazy cut KW on top of radiatror surround ? Year
twaz it a tilt cab?
Early K Model with the word KENWORTH on top of radiator surround Year?
then the K with the KW bug logo on top of radiatror surround Year?

Have I got them in the correct order ?
Do U kno the years they were available?
Thanx in Advance

Here in Australia Kenworth  have just released there 2011 models
n looks like they stole the pete radiator surround grille


 
Cya
§wishy
By 1955 kw bullnose - Saturday, September 11, 2010 6:31 AM
The CSE was made 1955-1957, then the very first k model came out that replaced the "Bullnose" and CSE in 58. as far as i know. could be wrong but i think im more right then wrong. :)
By Bill White - Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:33 PM
Swishy, Twaz the nite before, Oh well here is some info. mate

Riding High—1936
In 1936, the "bubble-nose," Kenworth's entry into the cab-over-engine (COE) truck market, was unveiled. These trucks proved extremely efficient and were able to carry a maximum amount of cargo in a minimal overall length.

1955 CBE

1957, Kenworth delivered a full-tilt COE cab


In 1961, two new models were introduced by Kenworth: the W900 conventional (W for Worthington) which provided larger cabs and a redesigned instrument panel; and the K100 (K for Kent) cabover

Bill
By Swishy - Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:55 PM
Thanx guyz for the info

Spose U never ever gunna C one of these

Clik here for the Kenworth K200



cya

§wishy
By David McNeill - Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:57 PM
Swishy,

the bullnose was introduced in 49 and was built until about 58. It did not tilt.
By Swishy - Saturday, September 11, 2010 8:01 PM
Smore
I hear U dont ask

LOL









cya
§wishy
By 1955 kw bullnose - Saturday, September 11, 2010 10:03 PM
Swishy those new KW's almost look as bad as Volvo's do. yuck!
By Tatra - Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:30 AM
Bill White (9/11/2010)
Swishy, Twaz the nite before, Oh well here is some info. mate

Riding High—1936
In 1936, the "bubble-nose," Kenworth's entry into the cab-over-engine (COE) truck market, was unveiled. These trucks proved extremely efficient and were able to carry a maximum amount of cargo in a minimal overall length.


Bill


Bill,

I don't think the first KW COE of the 1930s was anything like the bubble-nose, it was more like the Acar and IH offerings of that time, all of which looked not unlike European COEs (the KW was very much like the big Renault of that time). The typical US COE bubble noses first came up in the 1940s and the 1950s. Jeff had a pic of the 1930s KW COE on a WAI thread but since the search function does no longer fully cooperate, let's hope he reads this and posts the pic.

Cheers,

T
By Tatra - Sunday, September 12, 2010 12:37 AM
David McNeill (9/11/2010)
Swishy,

the bullnose was introduced in 49 and was built until about 58. It did not tilt.


Huh?



Some more on Hanks: http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/bullnose_kw.htm

OK, only joking, this must have been a custom conversion...

Cheers,

By Tony Brown - Sunday, September 12, 2010 1:40 AM
Swishy (9/11/2010)
Thanx guyz for the info

Spose U never ever gunna C one of these

Clik here for the Kenworth K200



cya

§wishy


I like it!

 
By Bill White - Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:06 AM
Tatra,

The 1936 K-W model 520 Cabover is what K-W calls it, I would call it a, LCF.

Bill

By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Sunday, September 12, 2010 8:06 AM
Here is the info I have on the early KW COE's, I'm not a KW expert but I'm pretty sure about this. The D-89-H was built in 1937, with at least 2 going to Werner. About the same time they were also building the Model 521 COE, many of these trucks had a Hall-Scott pancake-style engine. A couple were sold to the forest service to haul mules, these were soon converted to tandem rears. I think that either the D-89-H or the 521 was the 1st KW COE. My vote goes to the D-89-H, I think it may have preceeded the 521 by about a year (I could be wrong about this). The Model 523 followed these models and was built in the '40's. It preceeded the Bullnose. I'd welcome any comments from anyone who has some better info on all this.

Bill, I don't have any info on the Model 520. If it was built in '36 it would have been 1st, I think. If that is the photo you meant to post I wouldn't call that 6x6 a COE.





By hanks1961kw - Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:35 AM
When I saw Jeff's pictures I remember seing a article in one of my old WOTs. I tried scanning it here it goes.

WOTs Vol.9 No. 3 May/June 1988 Article name "Roger Sackett Explores Kenworth COEs" I believe this might help answer some of your questions Swishy.
By Swishy - Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:32 AM
Thanx guys for the Gr8 info n pix

Hanks them scans R zaclee wot i'm look n 4
Tar Muchly
cya
§wishy
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Sunday, September 12, 2010 2:10 PM
Hank, thanks for posting that WOT article. That is some great info and tells the story much better than I could.
By deguitars - Sunday, September 12, 2010 6:09 PM
Hank, another big thanks for posting that article!

Cheers,
David
By hanks1961kw - Sunday, September 12, 2010 7:18 PM
Your welcome guys. Good to feal I have been of help here.:)

When I became a ATHS member about 12 years ago I got two real old WOT issues this one and one that includes the 1988 ATHS convention Vol. 9 No. 4 July/Aug. 1988. I guess there was no "Show Time " back then.Lucky me.

Swishy I will rescan the short page again.And will try to edit it. HANK
By Bill White - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:56 AM
Kenworth's web site call's it a cab over you figure that one out. 

http://www.kenworth.com/7100_ken_1.asp 

Riding High-1936
In 1936, the "bubble-nose," Kenworth's entry into the cab-over-engine (COE) truck market, was unveiled. These trucks proved extremely efficient and were able to carry a maximum amount of cargo in a minimal overall length.


 Bill
By Tatra - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:46 AM
Bill,

Thw one I meant is in the middle pic Jeff posted. The Hawaian (?) truck on KW site looks to me like an early S model ancestor... Shows they had the ideas even back then.

Hank, Jeff,

Thanks for the scans.

Cheers,

T
By Bill White - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:16 PM
Tatra,

I agree on that, also some times they have them on the drawing board for many years before they build them.

Take care,

Bill
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Tuesday, September 14, 2010 3:41 PM
It seems like whoever wrote the article on the KW site didn't know the difference between a shovelnose and a bubblenose.
By Swishy - Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:46 AM
OK
Thanx guys for the info n pics
this leeds me to the next Q:?

Wot duz the KW model # represent

Me thinks 925
900 = Drop front chassis rail
25 = Torsion bar suspension
Wot about 933, 963, 953 n any other # I dont kno about

Thanx in advance
cya
§wishy

DropFrontChassisRailDropFrontChassisRail
By Mackdaddy - Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:37 AM
I like the 48 Bullnose with the fenders and running boards. I have never seen one out there??
By Swishy - Monday, September 20, 2010 4:10 PM
Hanks
GuddayM8

Howja go with the rescan?
If U scan @ fullsize I might B able to rejuvinate it
or ifn U wanna email it 2 me
swishy(at)beamish.biz
Thanx in advance
cya
§wishy