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By someguy - Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:18 AM
Hi Everybody,

I was sent here from the HVCV forums from down under.
I was looking for people "in the know" in regards to my old truck.

My grandfather purchased it new in Saskatchewan and my family has owned it
ever since.

I was looking for hubcaps and possibly the bumperettes as well.


Heres the old girl. Pardon the radial tires, they are on there just to roll it around.

Todd.




By CarlBesola - Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:27 AM
Well I can't help ya much but I must say that's a fine old truck!:D
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Sunday, August 16, 2009 4:01 PM
I'll have to agree about the great truck, I have always liked that style Dodge/Fargo/Desoto. Sorry I can't help about the parts. Have you tried Roberts Motor Parts ? They specialize in Dodge truck restoration parts.

http://www.robertsmotorparts.com/index.html

By edpruss - Monday, August 17, 2009 5:29 AM
We have a friend who has a '37.  The wheels are 6 on 6"  bolt patten, not very common, grab what you can.  Said to come on 3/4 ton trucks.
By Bruce Ohnstad - Monday, August 17, 2009 11:38 AM
What a classic Great Plains survivor.  Your family did well in using it carefully, no dents!  Enjoy as-is and don't worry about radials until you start exhibiting at the judged shows.

Bruce

By rw - Monday, August 17, 2009 1:26 PM
you should have good luck calling alvin white at 519 942 4033,he is the fargo guy in canada.He has several of them, and has had for many years.
By someguy - Wednesday, January 03, 2018 6:36 PM
Hi all, I thought I would post the progress on this truck in the last year or three.

Went through the engine and it turned out pretty well if I do say.

A quick and dirty polish job on the body made what was left of the paint shine.

Powder coated the rims after much welding and grinding to repair some battle wounds.
Added reproduction GoodYear bias truck tires to them shiny new wheels.



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By someguy - Thursday, February 01, 2018 2:50 PM
Engine is now installed, hopefully I will have some more news soon.

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By someguy - Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:34 PM
Hello all, I have finally done some more to the Fargo. Front end is on, rebuilt radiator is in, cleaned up and resealed the tranny, cleaned up and redid the drive shaft, cleaned up and resealed the steering box.

As you can see in the photos (camera lens on my phone was scratched up causing the hazy photos), I am still finding mouse nests and dead animals. the last photo shows how back in the day somebody used a Singer sewing machine oil can to thoughtfully craft a new defroster vent. I guess you have to do what you can in Rural Saskatchewan haha.

Every time I take a bracket out of the truck it seems they are either cracked or broken so there has been much sandblasting and welding as well. The poor old thing probably saw its share washboard gravel roads.

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By Richard - Thursday, January 31, 2019 1:45 AM
Great Dodge, ah, er, Fargo. Love the defrost vent! Sometimes you gotta make do with what ya got.
By someguy - Saturday, February 02, 2019 3:19 PM


Anybody around these parts have any insight into how to remove the knobs from the dash light and headlight switches?

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Its not super obvious to me and even the shop manual doesn't cover it. I just don't want to damage anything.
By cat herder - Saturday, February 02, 2019 4:19 PM
some times light switches have a spring loaded button under the switch to remove knob and stem. not sure on your model? great truck! good luck.
By someguy - Sunday, February 03, 2019 11:53 AM
I managed to get the knobs off. if you look closely on the side of the knob there is a small slot that you can get an o-ring tool into to push the tab on what is basically a push on nut and it slides off. like the image more or less.



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By someguy - Sunday, February 03, 2019 11:53 AM
I actually had to destroy one of the knobs to learn how it works. it was held on with a blob of lead so it was destined to be replaced anyhow.
By someguy - Sunday, April 07, 2019 3:29 PM
While I was in the front wheel well repairing some broken fender brackets I couldn't leave the crusty old shocks looking and performing like garbage so I took them out and cleaned them up. The shop manual says that they are rebuildable, but I haven't been able to find any info on the seals or kits for them.

Anybody out there have any insight into this.
The seals are the 2 large round parts on the bottom to the right of the rows of small parts. There is also some sealing washer rings that get squished inside the tube to seal the packing nut.


You can see in the upper left I made a seal nut wrench to get the shock apart. After looking at a wrench in the manual I whippid one up out of some flat iron and keystock. It work really well and was virtually free.

Sorry for the crappy pic, but it gets the point across.




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By someguy - Monday, May 13, 2019 5:55 PM
I managed to find some seals for the shocks through an industrial supplier I deal with at work. Its just a modern dual lip seal made by Timken.
I also purchased some new shock eye bushings from energy suspension and they seem reasonably good quality.


I thought I would include a pic of the shock gland tool I fabbed up when I saw the price of and original one.
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By someguy - Saturday, February 08, 2020 7:49 AM
Hi Guys,

I spent the Christmas break tackling the job I looked forward to the least. I managed to repair all the rust in the windshield frame.

After 40 hours of tig welding grinding and filing the result was fairly acceptable.
By someguy - Saturday, February 08, 2020 7:51 AM
Here is a cool set of photos (you may have to zoom in) of the Fargo in the 40ies and later.The little girl in the bonnet is my Mom and the boy is my uncle that really liked the Fargo and drove it a lot. Seeing it again last summer brought tears to his eyes.
By FredD - Saturday, February 08, 2020 12:39 PM
How exciting to have those pictures. You did some very good fab work on that windshield frame.
By Bruce Ohnstad - Saturday, February 08, 2020 4:00 PM
good work on the frame. They are hard to work because of the complex hollow internals. For curves, I've found that cutting the curve on a flat sheet and welding the outer and inner surfaces along the corners works well. Keep up the updates,

Bruce
By someguy - Tuesday, April 07, 2020 1:53 PM
Hi Guys, I finally have the windshield completed and the glass installed.
It turned out better than I hoped.

My friend has a glass shop and found some really cool gasket material
that goes between the glass and the frame and makes the install look really clean.
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By Bruce Ohnstad - Tuesday, April 07, 2020 4:25 PM
That looks great, well done. Keep us posted.

Bruce
By someguy - Thursday, April 09, 2020 3:15 PM
Here it is installed, it seems to seal up really well and crank out nice and easy.

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By PZ 1 - Monday, April 13, 2020 4:06 PM
I like that you are keeping it like original including bias ply tires.
By someguy - Tuesday, May 05, 2020 5:16 PM
Thanks, I really wanted it to be as close as I could make it to the original way it was.
I think bias ply tires really give an authentic look to an old vehicle. I get the radial thing, but
they just don't look right to me.
By someguy - Monday, October 26, 2020 5:00 PM
Hi Guys,

After a short summer, its time hit the garage again. In my lifetime the Fargo never had an end gate.

I was on a friends farm years ago and found a 50ies Fargo end gate in the grass, it was pretty beat but, eh.

So I spent some time making it fit an early truck by removing 5 1/2" inches of height and I can't remember
how much width.

I am going to do a ton of grinding and some hammer and dollying, maybe a skim of filler.

I'll post some progress soon.

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By Geoff Weeks - Tuesday, October 27, 2020 2:11 AM
Wow, lots of hard work there.
By someguy - Friday, October 30, 2020 5:08 PM
Hi Guys,

I spent the whole day grinding and came up with this.

I am going to paint it black tomorrow, I left a lot bruises and
blemishes so it sort of is in the same condition as the truck.

I left one of the bullet holes, I don't know if thats cliche or not.

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By someguy - Monday, November 09, 2020 1:59 PM
I spent some more time sanding and priming the endgate one more time before painting.
the first coat of black paint showed my amateur body work but its not supposed to be too nice.

I had to do a little surgery on the hinge area of the box due to being heavily worked and in poor shape
due to a piece of angle iron on the bed opening bottom to hold a wood endgate for hauling grain.

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By Brocky - Tuesday, November 10, 2020 1:51 AM
That is great work!! Please keep the progress pictures coming..
By someguy - Sunday, November 22, 2020 3:51 PM
When I installed the endgate I noticed that the latches were upside down on the new endgate compared to what the Fargo's original endgate would have had. Due to the shape of the brackets they couldn't simply be traded side for side and flipped. So this below was how I thought it should be handled.
I brushed on some rust converter under the brackets to protect the unpainted area under them.
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By someguy - Thursday, December 24, 2020 9:50 AM
While I was waiting for my wiring to arrive I figured I would keep busy by taking each fender off and tend to some of the cracks/tears/dents that all over all the fenders. While they were off I did clean up areas that would be hard to get at when the fenders are on.

You can see the desperation of whoever tried to gas weld the tear in the fender as the keyhole opens wider and wider as he went up.


It's amazing what just some elbow grease will do.

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By someguy - Thursday, December 24, 2020 9:55 AM
While doing the sheetmetal repair I decided to take the front bumper off and clean up the hardware that held it on.
I noticed a piece of what I found out to be a garnish molding that covers where the bumper attaches to the frame of the truck.
I don't know what happened to it but it was saveable. There was only one though.

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By someguy - Thursday, December 24, 2020 10:02 AM
Seeing as there was only one garnish, I decided to make a second one.

I just used a couple sockets and squished the sheetmetal in a vice to get the dimple.

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By someguy - Thursday, December 24, 2020 10:06 AM
When the garnishes were done I noticed the rubber gasket behind them was pretty shabby (see pic),
so I just trimmed the shabby outer part off the outside edge and now its totally acceptable.

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By Geoff Weeks - Friday, December 25, 2020 2:14 AM
nicely done!
By Wolfcreek_Steve - Friday, December 25, 2020 6:03 AM
There's two ways to restore an old truck, spend lots of money or spend lots of time! I enjoy the "time" method also.
By someguy - Saturday, December 26, 2020 7:04 AM
In the guise of spending more time than money (my preferred method like Wolfcreek Steve).
I am on to the wiring now that the fenders have been tended to.

I was able to find all the correct wire and terminals from Harnesses Unlimited.
They also sell complete harnesses, but I wanted to make my own for about 1/3 the price.

I also added wiring for signal lights and a second tail light as the truck only had one tail light.
My modern car literally has more wire in the steering wheel than the entire truck has.

While pulling out the rear wiring to the tail light the loom cover had a cool little hoop
at the end for what I assume was for pulling the loom into the truck.
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By someguy - Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:15 AM
While still waiting for the wiring to arrive, I decided to clean up the heater.
It was as expected full of rodent nest and all the good stuff that goes with the filthy varmints.

The heater core must have frozen, the tanks were cracked and the seams were split.
so after much soldering it seems to be good.

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By someguy - Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:18 AM
Here is the heater post clean up and installed.

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By someguy - Sunday, January 17, 2021 3:16 PM
Here is the view on the engine side of the firewall where the steel pipes/mounts for the heater poke through.

I just cleaned up the original hardware and made some rubber buffer pads that go behind the washers.

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By someguy - Monday, January 25, 2021 2:56 PM
The wire has finally arrived. Be back soon.

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By someguy - Monday, February 01, 2021 2:39 PM
I am part way through the wire but there is much more fitting to do.
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By someguy - Monday, February 01, 2021 2:40 PM
I brazed up a barbed fitting in the coolant line to hook up the heater as well.
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By someguy - Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:43 AM
I found a cool old waterslide decal and decided to put it in the back window as the view through the windshield is small enough without and additional clutter. Regina is the capitol city of the province of Saskatchewan and the training centre for our Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) as well as where the Fargo would have been shipped to for distribution in Saskatchewan.
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By someguy - Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:46 AM
My Mother made up a book of our family history and farming was a way of life until the 1970ies.

Here is the Fargo at work and another shot of our family friends who helped in the harvest.
Maybe somebody here could I.D. what the other truck is.
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By someguy - Monday, January 03, 2022 11:38 AM
I finally got around to getting the wiring in the old truck but first I had to clean the drivers side frame rail so I had a clean area for the wiring.

I was amazed, after some liberal scrubbing, how nice the paint still was.


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By someguy - Tuesday, January 04, 2022 4:43 PM
I have added signal lights to the truck, but I made a separate loom but still looks like original wiring.

I wanted it to be removable (for whatever reason).
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By someguy - Friday, January 07, 2022 7:23 AM
While I was cleaning underneath the truck I had to take out the fuel tank out and do some repairs.
There was a baffle inside that was loose so I roset welded it back in and resealed the repair with solder like the factory welds were.

The seal between the cab and tank may need replacing, what do you think. Haha.

The tank cleaned up really well. A quick check of the sender and it back together with the cleaned up mounting hardware.https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SjRxKcw/0/17552bf6/X2/i-SjRxKcw-X2.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-4BbKtxp/0/a45efa32/X2/i-4BbKtxp-X2.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-bMdgrTk/0/359af9c8/X2/i-bMdgrTk-X2.jpghttps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-skD9PPx/0/34ac314b/X2/i-skD9PPx-X2.jpg
By Bruce Ohnstad - Friday, January 07, 2022 4:13 PM
Thank you for posting. Nice work.

That's really interesting how the paint was preserved under that scale.

Bruce