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What Am I for Sunday 4/22/12
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By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:22 PM
Super singles all around. Emblems removed.
By Brocky - Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:44 PM
That looks like a Freightliner day cab, but as far as the chassis I will WAG Crane Carrier??
By clyde318 - Saturday, April 21, 2012 2:27 PM
Shot in the dark. Pacific.
By Davwingman - Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:21 PM
By Autocarjim - Saturday, April 21, 2012 3:32 PM
By Autocarjim - Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:06 PM
Looks like it is probably going to Hawaii.
By ray88 - Saturday, April 21, 2012 4:39 PM
And another wild shot in the dark - Fabco
By John Woge - Saturday, April 21, 2012 6:22 PM
I'm sure I'm probably wrong.....but i'll go with the Freightliner gang because of the doors, grab handles and fuel tanks.

By john gott - Sunday, April 22, 2012 2:04 AM
Ii have no idea, but interesting routing of the exhaust.

John G
By wayne graham - Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:25 AM
The truck is freightliner but vendor driveline possibly OSH-KOSH. Wayne
By braketester - Sunday, April 22, 2012 7:11 AM
Will go with White Freightliner
By Warren Richardson - Sunday, April 22, 2012 12:05 PM
Offset banjo housings and COE cab could be FWD. Sure looks like Freightliner cab with special visor and grill. Just guessing here.
By Jeff Lakaszcyck - Sunday, April 22, 2012 1:37 PM
Brocky got us thinking on the right track before veering off course, and autocarjim clinched the deal. This is a 1964 Freightliner WFT5364 Sugarliner, destined for the sugar cane fields in Hawaii. All photos are from Rocky Blakewood. Here is some info sent to me by Rocky along with the photos below.

July 15th, 1964 two White-Freightliner Sugarliners were loaded aboard the Matson Lines' "Hawaiian Farmer" to be delivered to McBryde Sugar Company in the Hawaiian Islands.

Sources document the vehicle as a WFT5366, a custom 53" cab size on a 6x6 chassis. The front axle is Mexican to a position with the wheel centerline behind the 53" cab. Thanks to anyone who knows what Mexican axle position was in use in those days.

Contrary to today's assumption that Freightliners will be built from aluminum, cabs made from steel were an option and was the material used on this cab.

Power provided by a DDC 8v-71N believed to be attached to a Spicer 80441A supported by Clark Axles, FD S20000 in the front and BD-50-60 in the rear shod with delicate 16.00x21 tires.

Wheelbase 210". Width, 107"; Height, 146"; total length, 393"; and weighing in at 39,000 lbs (no note if that includes fuel or not).

The truck was geared to allow it to travel at 1/3 mph while being loaded. Top speed fully loaded, 38 mph.

GCW 153,945 lbs.

At least three sugar liners were built and shipped to Hawaii where they were reported to have been seen in use many years later.

The sharp eyed will notice the pictures of the trucks in operation are of at least two different trucks, The extra grille area on the passenger side noseskin is missing from the picture that is in color.

I have found no one who knows what the extra grille was for, my guess is the air supply for the engine to get it away form the cargo.

Another interesting feature is the style of roof being used on this cab. It resembles the roof used on the White-Freightliner Half Cab and only appears on a few of the pictures I have come across.

I am also sure that the height of the cab entry stirrup in front of the steer axle is well above today's Federally mandated maximum 24".

I can only imagine what is was like fully loaded, the Screamin Jimmy singing out rolling at 35 mph to the sugar mill.
By John Frances - Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:30 PM
The forum software continues to interpret the word S E T B A C K as a racial slur and replaces it with the word MEXICAN. Another example from a month ago here.
By Bill White - Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:47 PM
The old mill and a Kenworth at rest

By MandoRocky - Sunday, April 22, 2012 6:01 PM
Thank you for explaining the editing that happened in my note.
By Brocky - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:48 AM
This is a good example of the learning processes from the WAI. I never knew that Freightliner ever built any special purpose trucks like this, which is why I assumed that it was a Freightliner cab on some other chassis.

Did White own Freightliner at the time this truck was built??
By Bill White - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:03 PM
Brocky, White never owned Freightliner they just marketed it, Consolidated Freightways owned it
In the 1930s they started their own truck manufacturing

By Brocky - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:19 PM

Thank you for the info. I am a slow learner, Had thought White had some ownership in them when they had their name as part of the logo on the front.
By MandoRocky - Wednesday, April 25, 2012 5:08 AM
White was happy to imply ownership of Freightliner, but CF was the sole owner until 1981. The internal publications rarely mention White Motor company, and the use of the White-Freightliner usually only on a completed truck.

From some of the early pictures, I believe that the plant signage only identified the building as Freightliner as can be seen in this photo dated 1960 of an prototype Freightliner Conventional discussed here before.

I take this as an indication the Tom Taylor and then Ken Self were proud of what they had accomplished and weren't going to be swallowed up by White.