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ScottM



Registered: 02/03/07
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09/04/07 at 08:01 PM
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I was wondering what you would restore if you had the money to do it and found a good candidate for a restoration?

I would like to do a 1960's Pacific P16, but my first choice is my 1964 Pacific.


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Posts: 244 09/04/07 at 08:16 PM
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That would be my 1969 Diamond Reo C-90, the first truck I ever rode in. When I was a kid I wished I could find a big pile of money so I could buy the bike, etc. that I wanted. Then I realized I was going to have to work and save money to do anything. Now I'm going through my second phase of looking for a big pile of money.
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For me to find and restrore the Peterbilt 359 in these pictures, It was my favorite truck out of the fleet when I was a kid, rode in it every chance I got. I know for shure it had a 1693, but the tranny was 13 or 15 I can't remember. The picture of the Pete by itself was the way it looked in the '80s different paint job to keep up with the times I guess....



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Hopefully, I'll find a decent Ford H-series COE from the early to mid-'60's.

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LeeSoCal



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09/04/07 at 10:37 PM
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These are the trucks I would restore if I were doing another.

B61 Mack
LTL Ford (non-aerostar)
Emeryville

But my wife says that if I bring home another truck, she is leaving. So I guess I will be a one truck truck nut.
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i would do the
74 116 reo
pre 1980 white western star
or a gmc general/chevy bison
FrankSurber

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09/04/07 at 10:55 PM
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I guess it would be just about any truck that had a 40s to early 50 type cab or a 70s Marmon
Lee if my wife ever said anything like that I would have to tell its been nice knowing you I think.

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71ZCarr

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Posts: 206 09/04/07 at 11:05 PM
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Well, if money, time and storage space were no object, I'd have to do at least two from this list.

Late 40's or early 50's Brockway 260
57-58 H-63 Mack
Late 60's to 73 Brockway 459
70's Brockway 700 series preferrably with 12V71
If I could find it, the 79 900A model I drove back in the late 80's




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LeeSoCal



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09/04/07 at 11:16 PM
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I am not dead yet and it is too hard to take a truck to bed. (Frank---you put the weisel words on the end of your post which is "I think"
I hope this post is not on the edge. ????
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CarlBesola

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I would do like Michelle did, an N950 Ford. But mine would have to be a Dump truck.

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tlkelsay

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If money was no object a Mack R700 with a 12V71 would be my pick...
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09/05/07 at 02:40 AM
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Well, for me it would be a Bullnose Kenworth. I still think that the coolest looking trucks ever! Follow of course by a forward set axle Autocar. O'H wait, I'm already doing one of those LOL.

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i would have to say my bullnose,it was redone in 86 ,but needs new paint,and i want to paint it my paint scheme,would like more horse

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I would say a '72 Pete 359 extended hood on a late model frame made to 270" wb, 3408 DITA Cat w/Brakesaver, Spicer 6x4, 3:70 gears, 80" Double Eagle sleeper, just the right amount of chrome, Seminole paint scheme in blue/white/gold like my papaw's 359 was. As long as we're going that far might as well throw in a painted to match Great Dane stainless steel Classic reefer w/spread axles on air. And all the required chicken lights.
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TonyClemens

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Posts: 167 09/05/07 at 03:12 AM
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I'm in the process of restoring the trucks I've always wanted to have. I like Whites, especially the narrow cab models. These were the brand and models of truck I grew up with. I'm also lucky to have a truck Dad drove when it was new.
I also really like the '48-'52 Fords. If one of them become available??
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AndyinWestOz



Registered: 02/06/07
Posts: 75 09/05/07 at 03:23 AM
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Any E model Mack but a dumper would be the coolest.
LAD-cabbed Leyland Octopus (or Hippo) with dump body just like my Pop used to have.

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09/05/07 at 03:25 AM
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I'm probably going a little newer than most of you folks, but the trucks I like the best are the late '80s/early '90s models (future antiques)! That was the time frame when I learned to drive and I really liked a lot of the trucks on the road then. Whichever I decided on, I'd probably pick a 3406 Cat engine like the 2nd truck I drove had in it (I loved that truck). If I could, I'd choose between:

1. Autocar AT64F
2. 1991 Kenworth W900L 007 edition
3. 1991 International 9300 Eagle (if I could find the actual second truck I drove).

And if I went a little newer still, I really like that 75th Anniversary Edition KW too.

If I had to choose an antique, I'd have to probably go with a Kenworth W900 or maybe even a K-100 cabover double bunk painted like the brown and orange one in the centerspread of the '70s KW brochures.

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Posts: 70 09/05/07 at 03:33 AM
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I'm restoring a 1965 L923 kenworth with full off road sheet metal truck has a 8V-71 DD 5x4 tran"s 44,000 LBS rear's top loader's. Upgraded front axle's with brake's.
Truck will be painted red and black Dual 5 inch stack's,24.5 alum wheel's very little chrome. Pic's to come soon i hope . Looking for one or two dry air cleaner's painted or chrome, Two 5 inch stack's 10 feet long in canada please if possible.
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FrankSurber

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09/05/07 at 03:57 AM
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I am not dead yet and it is too hard to take a truck to bed. (Frank---you put the weisel words on the end of your post which is "I think"
I hope this post is not on the edge. ????
Lee you can ask any one who has known me for any length of time and they will tell you that I have never in my life let any one /any thing or any Government stand between me and what I decided to do if that is or was what I really wanted
My daughters would tell you it is the world acording to Frank As far as taking a truck to bed goes I hardly ever sleep any way
My problem is I am just too lazy to put the amount of effort it would take to restore a truck for myself and when I finished it I would probably use it as a demolition derby any way.

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OrrinS

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My votes would be:
#1) '76 KW ...w/ RR 18 spd DOO, 1693TA, 4" stacks, 60" flat top, and 4:11 rears on 24.5's
#2) Earlest twin steer KW made super single drives.
#3) '53 Bullnose KW w/ V-12 92 DD

ATTN: TonyHughBrown,

Really good looking KW w/ a neat paint job, love the colors, mine will be cream, factroy blue with gold or tan pin stripes. I can't remember the name of the paint scheme you have, do you or anyone else know it?? I'm goint to use that one when I repaint this winter(I hope).

Also, could you, please, tell me what the WB is?? Look like maybe 225"...just a wag!! I'll be adding a sleeper and 2nd axel also.



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Posts: 86 09/05/07 at 05:08 AM
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If I have the time and money and live to 130 I will finish my 1925 Indiana that I found in a barn when I was only 16!


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Registered: 03/09/07
Posts: 48 09/05/07 at 05:11 AM
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1) Mack Western (FL) cabover in Continental Baking colors,with a Maxidyne instead of the Detroit motor.

2) Mack MR in classic (blue) Postal Service colors

3) Mack Western RL690LST with Maxidyne/Maxitorque driveline

4) Paymaster tractor
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Guess I'm lucky--Found the truck to restore, worked on it 3 years, about finished just the way I wanted it. Had all the fun I could stand and don't plan to do another.
Really enjoying the 74 Acar.
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tony brown i like that kw more every i see it,nice ride.

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09/05/07 at 06:42 AM
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I'd like to restore a truck that you don't see around too much anymore. It's an extended hood White 4000 from the early seventies. A few fleets used to run them like Roadway and Strickland.

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09/05/07 at 07:49 AM
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I would just like to finnish up the trucks I have now and I would be happy

1934 Diamond T 211 1/2 restored.

1954 Diamond T 921 In the wings.

1958 Diamond T 922 Runs Drives good to go. Will add 15 foot flat bed soon.

1946 Dodge Flat bed Runs well Just neads paint and inside.

1961 Ford F150 Runs but needs full resto.

and 1969 Ford F 250 Runs and drives needs paint.
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CarlBesola

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The bullnose kenworth would be an awesome project to say the least. I remember the chap I bought my L9000 Ford from in new paris Ohio had one sitting in his shop. Torsion bar suspension, aluminum frame, etc I think he was a member, but I can't recall his name. I seem to remember an aths calender on the wall in his office. Anyway, he said he would one day get around to restoring it.

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09/05/07 at 08:27 AM
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#1 finish the truck I am working on... I am 39, maybe it will be done by the time I am 50. 1981 KW W900A

#2 would be a 77 (post White era) or so large cab Freightliner COE painted Green/Yellow like the old IML colors. Or maybe some other color scheme.

#3 would be a Pete like Cam's 67'. Slightly restomodded for comfort and performance but maintaining a nearly original appearance or as it might have appeared about mid life, late 70's or early 80's.


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I was looking for a late 30s White 820 or similar when I came across my 47 Autocar U70. (A bird in the hand was worth more than 2 in the bush) Would still like one but probably will never have one.

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My votes would be:
#1) '76 KW ...w/ RR 18 spd DOO, 1693TA, 4" stacks, 60" flat top, and 4:11 rears on 24.5's
#2) Earlest twin steer KW made super single drives.
#3) '53 Bullnose KW w/ V-12 92 DD

ATTN: TonyHughBrown,

Really good looking KW w/ a neat paint job, love the colors, mine will be cream, factroy blue with gold or tan pin stripes. I can't remember the name of the paint scheme you have, do you or anyone else know it?? I'm goint to use that one when I repaint this winter(I hope).

Also, could you, please, tell me what the WB is?? Look like maybe 225"...just a wag!! I'll be adding a sleeper and 2nd axel also.
Orrin,
Here you go.Hope they help.John
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It would need to meet three criteria.
1) It would have to be different.No cookie cutters, could be a common make and model, but customized to stand out a little.
2) Needs to be able to work for a living.That means it needs to be easy to work on.No butterfly hoods or non tilting COEs, nothing with oddball suspension or driveline.Most likely a brand thats still in production so parts could be adapted from dealer stock.Dont want to be out of work for more than a day or two waiting for parts to show up.
3) Its gotta have BIG POWER,lol.A KTA in a Pete or KW, COE or conv., is the first preferance, but I could be just as happy with a balanced and blueprinted, ported and polished 500 HP 4 valve Mack in a super light RL/FL chassis.

Couldnt be happy with anything strictly restored back to original, but couldnt imagine anything more fun than working an updated old truck on a daily basis.Who wouldnt enjoy getting paid to show off ?,lol.John
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A 1959 GMC 860. My Dad had a really nice one.
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John C. & Tony H. B.,
Thanks to you both for the info.
Seminole is the pattern I like most and it was the original scheme on my KW.
Tony, didn't think your WB was goina be the long. Guess it's and extended hood and that's what, 9-10" more? Really nice rig, looks well balanced.

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Yup, Tony has my dream truck for sure! Love those 70's paint schemes(even Petes and Shaker designs too).

Like John, even if it's a plain stocker, but doll'd up with some simple O/O stuff to make it stand out. Big power is cool, and since I'd have the money to do this project it just wouldn't matter anyway LOL! 12v DD is cool, but V8 Cat sounds cool too. Two sticks are mandatory.

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09/06/07 at 12:09 AM
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OK, everybody sit down, I may surprise you. If I were to restore another truck, my next truck would be an early 70's KW with 60"flat top sleeper and full blown 1693 power,with 200+ inch wheelbase and 15 speed with all the bells and whistles and a really neat triple color paint scheme of the era. Probably red and black with white separating lines. As for doing another Ford, I would like to do a 86 LTL Ford with an 80" sleeper and 3406B, just like the one we once owned. Of all the trucks that we have had that LTL was my all time favorite.

If I did not have a truck and was just starting I would pick the N truck that I now have. The N truck is some what unique as you do not see very many of them. At the ATHS convention in Colorado Springs there were none at all there. Body parts are not that hard to come by as many parts from the F series will fit. You have ton of vendors that sell just about any part that you could want for a F-100 of the same vintage. Glass, any rubber part on the entire truck, knobs, trim pieces, rubber mats or carpet, inside door handles, out side door handles, You get the picture, all this will fit the N truck. They are a few hard to find pieces, but if you dig long enough they will surface. I have absolutely no regrets what so ever for doing the N truck. I love the truck and get compliments on it everywhere I go.

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How about a rare Peterbilt 346.

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I would love to have a mid 40s approx STERLING truck and trailer rig.

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John C. & Tony H. B.,
Thanks to you both for the info.
Seminole is the pattern I like most and it was the original scheme on my KW.
Tony, didn't think your WB was goina be the long. Guess it's and extended hood and that's what, 9-10" more? Really nice rig, looks well balanced.
Orrin I'm not sure how much longer it is, always though 12. the hood is 72 3/4 from the back to the grill chrome (on top). 270 WB is about standard for the big hood market. If it was a short hood with 235 I would have left it alone but it was 210, with the sleeper on, a headrack was imposable. You can get around easy enough. I needed room for a headrack and a bigger bedroom one day. I was thinking of the day when take her off the road too. At 270 I can pull the sleeper off, a 24' box will fit just right, insulate, panel the inside, bathroom in the back, bunk beds, cut out some steps for the side door, box in underneath for storage (gen., holding tanks, etc.) ... motor-home....tony

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OK, everybody sit down, I may surprise you.



You got me michelle. didn't see that coming. tony
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Yup, Tony has my dream truck for sure! Love those 70's paint schemes(even Petes and Shaker designs too).

Like John, even if it's a plain stocker, but doll'd up with some simple O/O stuff to make it stand out. Big power is cool, and since I'd have the money to do this project it just wouldn't matter anyway LOL! 12v DD is cool, but V8 Cat sounds cool too. Two sticks are mandatory.
Thanks Freightrain. Two sticks would be cool. tony

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Here you Go Michelle
Roland and I spent about 30K on this one back in 86 19 K on the engine alone pumping the old 1693 up to 550 at the wheels increased the spacer plate between the head and block by about .050" dropped the comp so much that it hadto spin up a little before it would start in cold weather but with the triple springs on the waste gate it could easily get 50 boost and much more if you let it build or poured the fuel to it
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I'm doing a 68 KW 125 w/DD 12V71, 12513, 411 and T/bar right now, but who knows what's next????? Maybe I can find a Mich Train for the KW? Tony W.

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Bought my dream truck to restore, 1960 W925 KW, butterfly hood w/fiberglass dual headlight fenders. But not going to restore it, after cleaning it up and tinkering have decided it is going to stay original as is. It is low mileage and very original, so would somewhat compare to the collector car classification as a "survivor". So I'm leaving it alone and just enjoying it as it is. Also allows me more time for finishing the resification of my 62 service truck. Scott

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An International Sightliner, a later model with single headlights. With tandem axles and spoke wheels.

Next would be a late 50's or early 60's large tandem axle conventional from the big three. Ford F, Chevy C, Dodge D. Really liked those. With about a 32 foot flatbed trailer. A Dodge would be really nice because they were so rare in the 60's. The C models were very popular but very few conventionals are seen.

H model ford (red)
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Sterling J model -I think anyone would be proud to have one.
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Posts: 636 09/06/07 at 12:23 PM
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thats what makes the ATHS board kinna ;;special;;
as ta everyone has there own interst

in my case
i just would hope ta have the time ta devote ta fixin the junk in the backyard
...that i already got''
the kw;s are runnin ;;survivers;;;
...but
the dodge ... bighorn.....is gonna be a real project though


you guys [and gals]...that get innta restorin pre war trucks?????
..my hats offta ta ya....
....as thats gotta be a real pain ta deal with them....
.i used ta deal with antique cars and trucks

wouldnt waist my time on any macks[cept maybe the LTL model]
and of course......none with ;;wagon wheels;;; of any brand ...lol

BTW
the difference between a standard hood A model kw and an ext hood is aprox 9 inches


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Well, I've got mine... But I don't have the unlimited funds... If I did the Dart would get a full blown restoration with oil field deck, gin-poles, 2 winches (at least one with 1 1/4" cable) and may be a 6-110 just to be different LOL. Since I have come to my senses, and relize that a Dart is just too heavy to make a road tractor capable of earning a liveing with, My plans are in flux, I know that I will try and keep it close to orignal, but haven't decided if I want to add a bunk or not. It would be nice to have somewhere to sleep if I am traveling to shows, but after 11 hr behind a 6-71 I think a motel room might be in order.
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Scott, you made a huge mistake by giving me an unlimited budget. Naturally I'd want every old truck I came across, but I'll try to keep this down to a few of my favorites. In no particular order:

1. Mack AC-6/AK-6/AP Bulldog from the 1930's. These trucks are very scarce compared to their 1920's counterparts.

2. 1940's Sterling HC chain drive, a dump truck perhaps.

3. Mack LT. To me, arguably, the best looking truck ever built. With 3 sticks, of course, to really test my co-ordination as I age LOL.

4. Mack NO 7-1/2 ton 6x6 from WW2. The largest standardized truck of the war, and certainly one of the most impractical trucks for a collector. I want one !

5. Nasa Peterbilt 351STL 6x6. With 12V71 power and a link to the space program starting with the Apollo program and still working for NASA today, these trucks are a real piece of history.

6. I've never been a big fan of COE's, but the Mack H63 and H67 models have started to grow on me lately. Tandem axle tractor with budds all around and a tri-plex.

7. Mack RS700 tandem tractor with Mack or Cummins power and a quad box. With all this old iron I'll need something "newer" to haul them around. A 70's W900, a Pete, or an Acar would would fit the bill also if spec'd right and with a 5x4.

8. One of the big WW2 heavy 6x6 wreckers with a swivel boom such as the Federal C-2. Sterling, Reo, and Biederman also built similar models. The perfect thing for lifting heavy engines, drive train components, cabs, bodies, and even trusses for my ever expanding unlimited budget garage.

There are many more I could add, but the shop is full for tonight. An addition would be needed to house all the Acars, narrow nose Petes and KWs, Marmon-Herringtons, Diamond T's, and, well, you get the picture LOL.


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Well, it is not so much as to what would I restore as to what I am restoring. ' 61 Emeryville, '81 W900 and '68 GMC Crackerbox. Next year my 359 and 9670 will be antique also. I just have to get remotivated and as soon as it cools off some. I will be gittin er done. Mike G.
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Well me too, with unlimited budget and space, if it was for sale, it would be in my collection! A Mack NO, we have one at the local railway museum, the truck has a cracked block, but is otherwise complete. I think it was repowered with a Cummins as some point but can't remember for sure. It is set up as an arch truck, looks like you could drag a heck of a lot around behind the old girl during its time. For those that don't know, an arch truck is essentially the predecessor to the modern logging skidder. We also have a big International arch truck there.

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being a pete fan i would want to have and restore a 87 #series 359 ext hood,after i finish my 358.and i know i will make tony brown happy the next one would have to be a A model kw ext. hood.after that maybe a 9500 gmc.just some of my picks,i love them all.hey goldengoat that sure is a good lookin pete behind your kw.

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My choices would be

Pete day cab with a hall scott done up as originally optioned factory correct.

W900A 200" wheelbase DAYCAB VIT 20K front axle 46K locking rears KTTA Cummins built up run through an 18spd.

Or a 359 Pete done up with most of the same specs as the Kw above but with a 3406C possibly A 3408 either of them with a cat retarder.

OR a full blow working truck would be a 1999 KW C-500 22K front 52K rears 18spd w 4spd aux, double frame 195" WB with a CAT 3406E 15.8L 625HP with a Michigan turbo some fuel table and injector trim code tweaks also with a retarder 1500+sq. in. cooling package. And a brand new Murray steerable 9 axle following me around where ever I go.

56 Ford f-600 Marmon Harrington 4 wheel drive factory correct.

56 GMC suburban napco 4x4

KW 6x6 C500 with a holmes 850 wrecker body on it.

KW bottle nose cab over California hay hauler specs.

Cracker box GMC converted to a crewcab (I KNOW im random like that) with a 12V71 in it.

or anything else i seen and fell in love with that i cant think of right now

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I am partial to cabovers. These are a few I would like to own.
1. Freightliner - 60s
2. Kenworth - 60s- 70s
3. White - don`t know model, they called them Japanese Freightliner
4. Mack - H model - 60s
5. Mack - G model - 60s. They only made these a couple of years.
I never drove a 2 stick truck , I would like to experience that sometime.
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Sorry for bringing another old topic up. Here's the short part of a long list of trucks I would restore:

1. Kenworth K-100 V.I.T

2. Peterbilt 352-110

3. Kenworth V.I.T 200 Bicentennial

4. Peterbilt 352H

5. Kenworth K-100 Aerodyne

6. Freightliner Powerliner

7. Freightliner FLT 10464

8. Kenworth W900A

9. Peterbilt 359

10. White-Freightliner WFT 9664


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Far better to bring up old ones and remind all of us what has already been saud than to start new ones with same things in them when ever thay can be found

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I got plenty of projects to finish, and a few to even start yet, but I have to admit that even though "White" has been my favorite truck ever since childhood there are a couple trucks that have turned my head from time to time.
One is a Brown. Like the ones Associated used to run. I ran across one that is really nice, and it's got a great big Continental in it. Sure would like to bring that one home, and have it in my collection.
The other one is a Hendrickson. There is one parked at a garage in Pennsylvania that has a 220 Cummins in it. Great big long hood on it. Would be like drivin' a speed boat. I can't get past there without checking to see if it's still there.
I'll never get either of these trucks, but as long as it's just pretend.





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After my KW is done, if that every happens, and I have space, money and time,
Freightliner COE 60's or 70's sleeper
and/or
Ford LTL 9000
Probably a few others I wouldn't mind -
Pete 358 or 359
If I win the lottery, add a bus and an airplane or 2 to the list -
Douglas Skyraider
Grumman Albatross
Crown highway post office or one of their other highway type buses that are rare - A KW/Pacific/Gillig would be an option as well.
Of all that the Freightliner COE is probably the only thing I could afford in the next 5-8 years. I have to retire from the Navy, get a job a house with property and get kids raised etc. Oh yea and I want my race / RV trailer before any of this.


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Originally Posted by kblackav8or
After my KW is done, if that every happens, and I have space, money and time,
Freightliner COE 60's or 70's sleeper
and/or
Ford LTL 9000
Probably a few others I wouldn't mind -
Pete 358 or 359
If I win the lottery, add a bus and an airplane or 2 to the list -
Douglas Skyraider
Grumman Albatross
Crown highway post office or one of their other highway type buses that are rare - A KW/Pacific/Gillig would be an option as well.
Of all that the Freightliner COE is probably the only thing I could afford in the next 5-8 years. I have to retire from the Navy, get a job a house with property and get kids raised etc. Oh yea and I want my race / RV trailer before any of this.
Kevin we sound a lot alike, except I've got the job, the house, raised the kids, now to retire so I've got the time. LOL

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Don't intend to restore anything; just look at what you guys do and admire yours. However, here are some of the trucks that really turn me on.

Pickups: '35 Ford, '30's Mack Junior or Reo Speedwagon, '37-39 Studebaker Coupe Express, '41 Ford, '46-47 Hudson, c.1948 Diamond-T, International
KB-1, '52-53 GMC, '56-57 GMC Suburban.

Medium-duty: '35-40 Studebaker, '38-40 GMC, prewar Studebaker, Ford and GMC cabover's.

Heavy duty: Anything up to about 1953 with a l-o-n-g, narrow hood like a Mack LT or similar Brown, Autocar, Pete, etc; one flatnose, tiltcab KW, '53 Ford cabover, any large GMC's from the fifties and sixties, and last but not least, A GMC General. The General is one truck that I never see enough of. What the heck, like Roy Orbison said, "It's Only Make Believe!" I'll just take one (or two or three) of everything. Will fifty acres hold them all and is anyone looking for a woman 'cause mine would never stand for this kind of nonsense. LOL

Jay

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That's a tough question, the more I think about it the more I come up with, so I'll stop with:
>Start my current project - conversion of a '48 F6 to F6.5 status
>A Mack LT
>Late 50's - early 60's A'car
>Ford N Series 750 up
>50's era Ford with a grafted sleeper
>50's / 60's era "pajama wagon" B61, White
>47 Dodge WJA59 Gin Pole
>KW Bullnose
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The only specific truck that's ever really stuck out was a R Mack tractor. Assuming I had unlimited funds and a massive shop my list would include:

Hall Scott powered 50's era conventional tractor

FWD or Oshkosh plow truck

M125 10 ton cargo truck

C cab Ford single axle bulk milk tanker

5 ton mobile machine shop

LT Mack incarnated as Phantom 309

Detroit powered Hendrickson tandem dump

and a baby Kenworth like someone posted about a couple weeks ago, you know a parts runner

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Lets see.......... a GMC General w/ 80 inch Double Eagle 400 cummins w13 speed on a 240 wb painted all silver, dual stacks w/ painted air cleaners.

1979 Freightliner double bunk cab over around 210 wb with one of those super cool mid 70 to mid 80s four color paint schemes w/all the different angle stripes and a 3408-B pumped up out of its mind layin down pitch black smoke out of inboard mounted chrome stacks.Pulling a 42' 6" Utility reefer lettered up for National Carriers in their old style logo.


Mid 70s Mack RS 700 240 wb 400 CAT 13 speed and stand up factory sleeper all white with a white frame and if its not painted white its chrome. A six and a four with 390s out back. Hooked to a 1970 era 40 foot tank lettered up for Midwest Emery.



1975 Pete double bunk cabover w a 440 hp Silver 92 Detroit and one of those crazy stripe jobs where all the paint and pinstripes look like an optical illusion the way they run together in shades of purple. A 13 speed w355s out back pulling a 45x96 Timpte super seal reefer, lettered for JAY Lines.


A 1980 Ford CL 9000 double bunk cab over with a 400 cat in that old candy apple red and silver wave paint scheme 220 wb pulling a 1980 stainless steel Great Dane reefer. .........Come on Powerball lottery, lets go, there's some trucks to be restored here !
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Well if i ever hit it rich i would restore all the old truck i have

57 IH AC180 308gas 5+2

66 IH transtar 250 cummins 13sp 3sp rears on walking beams

69 White coe 250 cummins 13sp

74 TranstarII 400 cummins 13sp

84 Marmon doublebunk coe 15 doubleover 390 rockwells on neway airride
89 IH 9300 444 cummins 13sp 370 rears on air

and some day would like to have a 79 W900A with a KTA cummins 6+4 boxes on air ride
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JEEEZZZ,,,,,,,,you guys dream big, don'cha, I just want to finish my Federal,,,,,,,but ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I wouldn't turn down a deal on an early SUPER DUTY,,,,,

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Hey Park, finish the Federal up by spring so I can come see it.

Jay

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Like many of the others I will have to finish my present "projects": '59 Diamond T 921C, 55 Ford F-600, 71 Brockway 358LL.

Tops on a wish list would be a postwar 40's - early50's (wooden cab) Brockway 260 single axle dump complete with V plow, Tower, and wing.
Second would be a 50's or 60's Brockway with and oilfield body complete with winches and gin poles.
and last but not least a Walter with plow.

Brocky


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Livin'in the burbs like I do having a nice truck is out of my means. too bad as a 63/64 Studebaker E40, gas or diesel would look good in the driveway. If not that then a 47-49 Diamond T. Dad ran a lot of them back then and still thinks they were the only trucks he made money with.
I learned to drive on the Studebaker and the late E series is the best lookin' ones of all.

Of course if someone woulkld give me a Mack Western R700L I could be quite satisfied also.

Ken


By H-63 - Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:41 PM
It's gotta be an H-63 Mack, best looking COE in my opinion.
By willowbilly3 - Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:59 AM
It would have to be this one since I already own it, although it probably wouldn't be a total resto. I detest unused/garage potato vehicles. I'd like to have it up and running, licensed so I could use it to go pull trailer local auctions, I plan to add winch and gin poles, maybe eventually swap out the hemi for a diesel. But who knows. I should have it home next week.

By Post from the Past - Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:07 AM
Wow  it is great that some actualy look at the old posts brought over from the old forums

there is a wealth if information locked away in those old threads

fortunatly they are all available for viewing or posting nothing is locked up in an archive for read only.

 Enjoy.

 several years ago I located a REO Gold Comet I am still trying to get the guy to sell it to me I want to do the Frank thing to it of course to me there probably is not a factory made truck that I would leave in any resemblance to the way it came from hte factory unless it happened to be already still pretty much factory or over 60 years old and all there. then I would probably stuff it in a Glass box and mount it on top of a sign pole or stick it in some museum.

  over 80 it would have to go back factory if it took 20 years. unless I wanted to drive it then all bets would be off

 and nothing plastic will ever be sacred even if it makes to 1000 years old in my point of view.

but then everyone knows I am not a historiphile the reason to learn as much about the history of anything is so you don't doom yourself to repeat it.

 I might keep a well speched out oilfield bed truck from the 40s to 80s of about any make as origonal as possible preferably  Autocar or any of the other Beasts sized ones.

 Military vehicles are the exception to my rule. one that has seen combat needs to show all of it's battle scars but remain in the same servicable condition it was when assigned to a unit.

By willowbilly3 - Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:21 AM
Frank Surber (2/26/2009)
Wow it is great that some actualy look at the old posts brought over from the old forums

there is a wealth if information locked away in those old threads

fortunatly they are all available for viewing or posting nothing is locked up in an archive for read only.

Enjoy.

several years ago I located a REO Gold Comet I am still trying to get the guy to sell it to me I want to do the Frank thing to it of course to me there probably is not a factory made truck that I would leave in any resemblance to the way it came from hte factory unless it happened to be already still pretty much factory or over 60 years old and all there. then I would probably stuff it in a Glass box and mount it on top of a sign pole or stick it in some museum.

over 80 it would have to go back factory if it took 20 years. unless I wanted to drive it then all bets would be off

and nothing plastic will ever be sacred even if it makes to 1000 years old in my point of view.

but then everyone knows I am not a historiphile the reason to learn as much about the history of anything is so you don't doom yourself to repeat it.

I might keep a well speched out oilfield bed truck from the 40s to 80s of about any make as origonal as possible preferably Autocar or any of the other Beasts sized ones.

Military vehicles are the exception to my rule. one that has seen combat needs to show all of it's battle scars but remain in the same servicable condition it was when assigned to a unit.


2 different Gold comets for sale right here in town, and a hood emblem for one laying on the trans tunnel in my pickup.
By Eddy Lucast - Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:38 AM
Anything that fits the odd and unusual catagory that has some history behind it.
By Jim Rose - Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:50 AM
My choices would be;

1. a model 350 Pete

2. 950 Diamond T 

3 LTH Mack

4. a model 351 Pete with factory 127 inch BBC and 1693 Cat

5. Bull nose Kenworth

6. D6 Ward LaFrance

Oops! I just came to my senses and realized that I am living with a hungry wife.   

By Jolly - Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:46 AM
Well I guess if money was no object, I would love to have a GMC B-7000 with Twin-Six V12. Then I would not mind having a GMC 3000 Model Series, those were only built three years, so thay are harder to come by. Next on the lixt would be anything 1960-1966 GMC, but I favor the bigger trucks, 1 one and over.
By Drew Waller - Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:26 PM
I want to restore my White 9000TD, after I restore my '66 Chevy C-10.

If I had to pick a dream truck, I'd restore a mid 50's Diamond T tractor, something like this, but with a tandem rear
By Mike_Blais - Thursday, February 26, 2009 12:53 PM
I'll stick with my original choice.
By Geoff Weeks - Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:46 PM
I've got more on my plate than I'll finish for a long time... The Dart 150 is the most rare and the one "I had to have" when I saw it.... The K-7 is the most driveable, and the KB-7 need the least (body) work to be done..... I guess I need time and money to get to work... When I have one (time) I don't have the other (money). But at least everything is inside, out of the weather and safe from being crushed.

   Before I bought my 1st "old truck", I wanted to find a Diamond T 950 RS... (still would like one) but the Dart 150 is most likely more rare... and rare isn't the only driveing force.  The K's I can enjoy before they are restored... both run and drive... Even the Fleetstar (which wasn't purchesed to restore... I bought a "running 6-71" that came in the chassie and I didn't want to pay them extra to remove it... I decided it was useable, so....) can be fun to drive with a load... It made me money doing city deliverys... I doubt anyone would want it to restore... there are still good example out there, but it can still be fun to drive.

By TEWHITEIV - Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:36 PM
I would love to have the '76 359 Pete, blue with white and red striping, I used to drive, to fix up.  Only saw I more like it, the guy was out of Benton, Ark.  With my 1917 REO, 1927 Int., 44 Chevy 2 ton, R-190, Super M Farmall, and Cub tractor to tinker with, I don't need anything but some time to enjoy them.  Singer Jim Croce used to sing about "Time in a Bottle", I need a few gallon jugs of it, specially marked for restoration projects.  I need to get the tractors going and join the tractor club so I will have more shows to overlap and clash with everything else going on.  The Yellow Rose show and the Marmon show are on the same day, which doesn't matter because my cousin is getting married on the same day, so that wipes that out.  Then our chapter is getting together on the same day as the Longview model train show.  I'm just waiting to see what is going to pop up around here at the last minute on the Huntsville show.  Sure are going to be some mad people in my rear-view mirror at the end of May, because I'm going to be "Eastbound and Down".
By Bill D - Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:13 PM
I would love to find the a Ward LaFrance like the one Jeff L. posted on WAI or the Federal posted on Wednesday.  But I love the trucks I have and they actually mean more to me, because they were either owned by my family and used in our business or are like ones we had.
By kblackav8or - Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:17 PM
My original answer:
[highlight=#ffff11]After my KW is done, if that every happens, and I have space, money and time,
Freightliner COE 60's or 70's sleeper
and/or
Ford LTL 9000
Probably a few others I wouldn't mind -
Pete 358 or 359
If I win the lottery, add a bus and an airplane or 2 to the list -
Douglas Skyraider
Grumman Albatross[/highlight]

Revised list - Pending completion of my 81 W900A:
40's-50's Kenworth conventional narrow nose w/ sticks and a Supercharged Cummins - slightly restomodded with front brakes, maybe power steering and maybe some creature comforts inside like AC and some interior updates like extra insulation. Depending on the truck I might make it into a daily driver like the Callen clan does, small flatbed and appropriate chrome and polish without going overboard.

60's-70's Freightliner COE 86" or larger cab, twin screw, a decent riding suspension. Power? Maybe something different, Cat or Detroit. Mike Colton has one pretty close to that he wants me to buy. Transmission is open.
An exception would be a Shaker like this one:


I would swap my A model for another A model if I could afford to for a Extended hood or cowl w/ a KT/KTA.

I need a better paying job or that winning lottery ticket.

By kb3csw - Friday, February 27, 2009 1:20 AM
I'd properly finish my 38 chevy 1 1/2 ton. A R model international tractor,got my license on a R190. 47.2 to 55.1 Chevy tractor spent many hours amongst the weeds driving my grandfathers 47 in my mind when small. late sixtys early seventys freightliner, many summer hours spent riding with my grandfather on the east coast. 78 4070B 290cummins 10speed budd wheels, second assigned truck in 1984 thought I was in tall cotton would have gone anywhere with that truck.
By Rob - Friday, February 27, 2009 3:49 AM
Well I'm going to offer a "long winded chime in" on this subject also. Like many of you, I too have a full platter. After 30+ years of repairing/rebuilding wrecked automobiles, trucks, tractors, etc, and refinishing almost anything that needed painting, I decided to move to my personal interest/hobby of antique heavy trucks.

In May of 1999 I decided that I would like to have a "B" model Mack because my grandpa had many. A friend moving machinery from a defense contractor in the Los Angeles area destroyed the clutch in his then new "CH" and drove to a Mack dealer for repairs. In the stall next to where his truck was being repaired sat this Mack A-40 dump truck. After learning it was "for sale", and relaying the information to me via telephone, I purchased this truck sight unseen with a credit card from the original owner's estate. My friend then hauled it back for me with the machine. One of the best purchases I have ever made as of all the trucks I own, this is my undeniable favorite. If I go broke and can't feed myself, this A-40 will be the last to go. Up until this truck was dropped at my shop, I had no idea what an "A" model Mack even looked like.

A few months later, I purchased an excellent running B model Mack. Although I do like it a lot, it is a "run of the mill" tractor. It will be finished sometime.

My daughter liked the looks of the B model and a single axle tractor was purchased, (for her) which is currently being worked on. I'm still looking for a single axle air ride for this one. (Note to Rob): She graduates college at the end of this semester, so need to get busy.

A friend of mine calls and informs me that there is an long hood R model Mack for sale that the guy wants to keep the engine from. This is the ticket that I'm needing for my Detroit engine project. Upon inquiring about this tractor I find out it is an "RL700" series tractor. Further investigation reveals that it extremely low production so I purchased with intent of working with it. As it shakes out, it is the sole survivor of a total of three copies built.

Still needing a truck for the Detroit engine, I purchased the R795, (avatar photo). This truck currently has a very good running V8 Mack engine but will be replaced with the Detroit to get it off the floor. This is also the truck that is being set up with the winches mentioned in earlier post(s).

Another friend stops by the shop and mentions that there is a derelict Mack truck sitting at a sawmill in MN that he has sold a piece of equipment to. After inquiring about this I contracted the freight hauling for the "end trimmer" delivery. Upon arrival, the truck turns out to be another "RL700" series Mack with a V8 and serial number ending in 001. I think "Geez, I've got to have this one too". So I traded the hauling for the truck.

These mentioned trucks are the ones that are viable candidates for restoration, and reside inside the shop full time. There are about seven others around here that are either parts trucks, yard dogs, or just heaps, but nothing goes to waste. Space permitting, a couple even get to come inside when cold.  

Now you can see why I have little free time. With the shop still running, (slowed down considerably the last two years), yet continuing to work a full time job, I seem to get so little done over a large span of time on my personal "projects". 

Sure beats the alternative though.

Rob

By Post from the Past - Friday, February 27, 2009 5:04 AM
Rob I have been meaning to Ask how Nikki has been doing we haven't heard from her in a couple of years.
By Michelle Cole - Friday, February 27, 2009 5:22 AM
I would like to do a 73 to 77 Ford W series with a sleeper and owner operator package, 350HP or larger engine with thirteen speed. Or a 72 model Freightliner COE with double bunk sleeper and 1693. 
By Rob - Friday, February 27, 2009 5:36 AM
Frank Surber (2/27/2009)
Rob I have been meaning to Ask how Nikki has been doing we haven't heard from her in a couple of years.

Hi Frank, she is doing well and looking forward to the end of school. She will be home tonight and I'll see if she will say a few words here.

We may "ramp up" the shop again with her in the office, citing current employment prospects in this area. She in anxious to get working and we have always operated well together. 

Thanks for asking.

Rob

By Tatra - Friday, February 27, 2009 9:13 PM
I'd restore these two:

(both from threads on the forum: http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum414/Topic41832-7-1.aspx and

http://forums.aths.org/InstantForum414/Topic32177-4-1.aspx?)

Problem is, both have gone to the big scrapyard in the sky and I don't even want to think what would it cost to build replicas.

However, next week, I plan on winning the Austrian lottery, then we'll see:cool:

Cheers

T

By BobBray - Friday, February 27, 2009 10:59 PM
Well, my dream WAS to restore a '67-'69 GMC pickup with a 305 or 351 V-6 in it.  Since I have already done that, I guess my next dream would be to restore one of the following:

1975 GMC Astro 95 or Chevy Titan 90 with a 12V-71.

1978 GMC General with a 8V-92TA and a big Allison HT.

1967 GMC JE-9500.  That's a short nose with the rare 637 gas V-8.

Mack RS-769.  I'll name it the Jim Tomer Special!

A Brockway with a big Continental gasser or a White 3000 with the Reo V-8 in it. 

By John Costley - Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:40 AM
Rob (2/27/2009)
Frank Surber (2/27/2009)
Rob I have been meaning to Ask how Nikki has been doing we haven't heard from her in a couple of years.

Hi Frank, she is doing well and looking forward to the end of school. She will be home tonight and I'll see if she will say a few words here.

We may "ramp up" the shop again with her in the office, citing current employment prospects in this area. She in anxious to get working and we have always operated well together. 

Thanks for asking.

Rob

Rob,

Make sure you tell her we all said hi.John