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| My local Detroit dealer told me the year before last ( 07? ) that no one will be able to buy two stroke parts thru truck dealers anymore.The truck dealers have been cut out of the loop on direct buying.You can still walk into any Detroit dealer and buy two stroke parts over the counter, and thats what the truck dealers have to do now too.Not a big change for most of them, arent many truck dealers keeping two stroke parts on the shelf anymore anyway. Actually sounds like the split was a good thing.There had been rumors that Daimler wanted to let the two strokes die off by stopping production on parts.MTU has actually brought back production on some obsolete parts numbers and is giving the two strokes better support than Daimler was.John
_____________________________________________ John Costley ATHS Online Division Charter Member Sabattus,Maine
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Doug Blevins (7/6/2009)
Bil, MTU is Detroit Diesel's Industrial, and off road (marine) engine division  Doug PS, are you still thinking of selling the KW? I have a neighbor that saw it when I brought it from Phoenix, he keeps bugging me to see if you want to sell, he wants it to pull a big horse trailer shoot me a PM  Doug did you get my PM? Email me your phone # and we can talk. See you.
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| Thanks Todd and Dan. I hate to see us loose so many good companies.
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| MTU is a German company that was owned by Daimler. In 2000 DaimlerChrysler as it was known then bought Detroit Diesel and merged it with MTU and Mercedes-Benz industrial engines division. In 2006 MTU and the off road division of Detroit Diesel was purchased by a holdings group. The on highway division of DD was retained by Daimler as part of its Freightliner Truck division. Both companies use the 'Detroit Diesel' name and corporate logo although the Detroit Diesel name and logo is disappearing quickly from the off highway company.
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MTU is the company that Detroit Diesel partnered with some 10 years ago or so . I don't know if it was a Penske arranged marriage ............or Daimler arranged . And recently, maybe 2 years ago ,when Daimler/Freightliner sold off both the 2 stroke line and all the non highway four stroke series 60 [and 50] business ,it was acquired by MTU . So if you have a boat or gen set or a off highway haul truck ,you call your MTU/DD distributer anyway . I understand the Canton ,Ohio parts warehouse set up by Penske when he took over DD now is shared by MTU and Detroit Diesel [Daimler/Freightliner/Mercedes], according to the local Williams DD parts mgr.
Allison was sold off by General Motors 3/4 years ago and is privately owned. Clear as mud ?
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Todd S (7/7/2009)
MTU owns/controls Detroit Diesel and most modern DD are MTU designs. They are very popular in mining trucks. Below is a photo of the bottom of one stuffed in a Terex/Unit rig 400 ton truck at Mine Expo last September. FYI the long pipe the guy in the foreground has his arm on is the tie rod. I thought I had a photo of MTUs booth there but I don't. Also was the 24V71 one block or 2 12V71s stuck together? I was thinking 12V71 was the largest single block engine of the 71 series that was built. Thanks for the information. So is MTU a German company? And are they part of Daimler? And who owns Allsion now?
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| dan r may correct me .......but... i beleive that the 24v71 issa siamised back ta back pair a 12 v 71;s ... ...as i understand [which aint much] ... ....the 12v71;s are single block [like my ;;sister;; kw;s are ] ...the 12v92 are married blocks [2 married 6v 92;s] ...... ...jest like the ole 16v71;;s [2 married 8v 71;s] .... ...even though the 2 stroke design puts very little stress on the crankshaft .......even the ole 12v71 has crank flexin problems by itself...and its not at all uncommon ta take out the main bearins[esp the middle ones] ... ...with the ;;married... design ...it kinna splits the difference on the crank load ......but theres also a penalty on the weight of the engine though
jim k tomer .......the altar boy
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| MTU owns/controls Detroit Diesel and most modern DD are MTU designs. They are very popular in mining trucks. Below is a photo of the bottom of one stuffed in a Terex/Unit rig 400 ton truck at Mine Expo last September. FYI the long pipe the guy in the foreground has his arm on is the tie rod. I thought I had a photo of MTUs booth there but I don't. Also was the 24V71 one block or 2 12V71s stuck together? I was thinking 12V71 was the largest single block engine of the 71 series that was built. 
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