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Howdy all. New here.
I've been a fan of cabovers for a long, long time. I'm only 24, but any COE is great looking for me. I drove a truck for 3 years (back in college now) but I missed the age of the cabover. Its sad to watch them disappear.
Here's the thing. My whole life I've been a big fan of IH Transtar II's (and still am) but now more and more my favorite classic truck is the Crackerbox GMC. I don't know what it is about the old Crackerboxes, but I like them very much. They are sharp trucks.
I was wondering if anyone has a website dedicated to the Crackerbox GMC's? Somewhere you could find all the specs (what years, what models, what options were available and when, etc.) and see pictures of Crackerboxes (whether vintage or current pictures of the old gals). I've checked out Hank's truck pictures, and enjoy that site very much. I am just looking for more information about them.
Also, what is a Crackerbox worth now? I know it would vary depending on condition, but how do you know what one would be worth? AND- has anyone on here restored one lately and have pictures posted on the internet somewhere where I could look?
Thanks for all your help. Looking forward to using this site.
PF
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| Here is a youtube of my dad's we have been playing with it for almost 3 years now. This red one just sold on ebay about 2 months ago for $11,000 and was perfect. Keep your eyes on ebay and WOT one will come available. Get with Mike Harbison, he knows of one for sale in the Iowa area. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6Gq3Oq7hxk
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| Paul, Welcome aboard.I dont know of any crackerbox specific sites out there.As far as price, its pretty much personal perception when it comes to old trucks.you look at it and decide if its worth it to you.Or post the ad here and let everyone else throw their opinion in,lol.John
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Thanks for the information so far. I've watched the YouTube video of that yellow crackerbox like 100 times. Neat video. Sounds like you got her running pretty good. I did like the picture of the red truck. Very sharp truck.
I've been looking around the internet and can't find any kind of spec pages on any old GMC trucks, let alone Crackerboxes.
I's like to see some more pictures of crackerboxes, too. Especially if I could find some pictures of guys restoring theirs.
Well, let me know if you have any other suggestions for me. Glad to be here.
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| Hi Paul - Seems I remember someone in the Mason Dixon chapter has some crackerboxes. Can't seem to get on to their site for now.
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Do most of the chapters have their own websites? I clicked on a few in this area, but all they had was their addresses and phone numbers.
Also, I couldn't find any Mason-Dixon chapter. Maybe I'm not looking in the right place. Still can't find any websites about Crackerbox GMC's. Searched the forums, but there's not much on here about them.
Thanks for the help. Maybe we'll find something.
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Thanks Fred. I looked at the website. Lots of nice pictures. No Crackerboxes, though. Saw a few nice pics of a Cannonball and a bull nose KW.
Here's a quick question: what is the exact model name for the Crackerbox? All I've ever heard is Crackerbox, not "GMC model ......"
Still looking for information on what specs were available, etc, also. I'd like to eventually get a Crackerbox completely restored with every option available at the time and a period-correct hopper-bottom grain trailer. These two should make a pair that turn heads. It'll probably be at least 2-3 years before I'm out of college and can afford to buy a Crackerbox, then the money spending begins.
Again, thanks for all the information everyone has provided. Keep it coming, I'm paying attention. Does any of the chapters here in my area have websites? I'm originally from Illinois. Probably move back up there after school. Be close to the Wabash Valley Chapter.
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As far as the model goes, I can't really remember. Something like DLR or DLF then some number behind that .
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Its hard to find anything on the net about Crackerbox GMC's. Of course GMC pops on every truck in the world, crackerbox doesn't come up as much.
Did see pictures of the truck in "Movin' On." Thought it was kind of funny that the Crackerbox was the "pig pen" of all the trucks. Looked pretty beat up in the one picture I found on the net. I've never seen "Movin' On" personally, so I couldn't say for sure (looks like a neat show though).
I've also been looking into Bubble nose GMC's. They are pretty neat, too. You see a lot more of them as daycabs. I always liked the look of a sleeper cab better for most trucks.
I'll keep looking and let you know if I find anything.
Let me know if you come across anything I might find interesting.
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Did you try to get in touch with Mike Harbison? He knows of a Crackerbox for sale in the Iowa area I believe. A young man was advertising it for sale back at Hutch. I just don't remember the sellers name. But, Mike would know.
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I don't know anyone on here, so no, I didn't get a hold of him. I'm new here. Just started to do a little research into Crackerboxes so I could restore one myself someday.
Anyone know what the different motor/transmission combinations they put in were? Also different cab sizes? I think I remembered reading somewhere one time that most of the Crackerboxes were made with Detroits. Other than that I really don't know much about them. I'd like to find some way to look at all the options that were available for them. I want it to seem like a true owner/operator truck. All the bells and whistles!
Also, $11,000 doesn't seem too bad for a truck in that good of condition (like the red one). I would pay for that, but I want one with tandem rear axles. I've noticed a lot of day cabs, and a lot of single axle tractors. A lot of freight companies must have bought them.
Anyone got any other good pictures of Crackerboxes? Really looking for lots of pics from every angle and even the interior.
Thanks again.
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6-71 and 8v-71 detroits. 10 speed trannys, or 5 and 3 speed rear end were most set ups.
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| Paul, The model was DF7000.Take a look at this '60 brochure. http://public.fotki.com/modeltrucks25thscale/truck_brochures/gmc/gmc_7000_models_1960/ this ad list all the engines that were availible over the years http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/don_jenne/gmc_ad3.jpg Hank's can be tough, the search engine doesnt always find what you want.The best way is to take a few hours and look thru all the folders individually.I found this one just because I remembered it, theres more in there somewhere. The conventionals of that era had Cummins as an option, but as far as I know the crackerboxes were strictly Detroit.You wont find much for options, they were built as a lightweight inexpensive tractor aimed at fleets.O/Os did buy them but options were usually limited to dual stacks, dual horns, budd wheels, and a little chrome.Not much offered for interior options compared to other brands that targeted the O/O market.O/Os faithful to the crackerbox usually did their own customization.Take the time to look thru all the show picture folders here and at Hank's and you'll see some nice ones.John
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| I know Fred Craig is thinning his "herd" and had some of his trucks For Sale at the Tri State show, but I don't think he had his Crackerbox for sale. I know he had for sale signs in his KW, Astro, the V-12 7000 and one of his Brigadiers.
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The latest WOT special edition has some GMC info. With production codes.
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Here's one that was for sale at Macungie last year. The seller was asking $1200. Nice truck-looked it over good, and went to look for a friend to see if he'd transport it home for me if I could put a deal together. When we got back to the truck we were told it had just been sold! Look on Brad Wike's website he had a couple of 'em awhile ago. Mike
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| Here's a nice Crackerbox that was at Macungie this year.  
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Pretty neat video. What motor and tranny does yours have?
Maybe someday you can take a tour all around and inside it with the video camera. For someone like me who's never been in or around one, it would be neat to watch.
When I get one, I want to put aluminum wheels on it (I like the looks of the new Alcoa Retro wheels), dual stacks, dual polished tanks, dual air horns. Basically all the options that would have been available in the year that particular truck was made. I also want a paint job that looks period-correct. I like the paint job on yours. I don't know about the colors... but the pattern is very "60's". Perfect for the Crackerbox. Especially if I can find someone who can hand-letter the door. Something about decals on an old truck don't quite look right.
Thanks for all the info. I really appreciate it. I'm in the middle of looking at every page that has the word "crackerbox" on Hank's Truck Pictures. Its taking me a long time, but its pretty neat. Not a lot of O/O trucks on there (as far as crackerboxes go). Lots of fleet trucks.
I'm still looking, getting a picture in my mind of what I want.
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Still looking for more info on Crackerboxes.
Thanks,
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i still have a big heart for cracker boxes,now and then ill go on you tube and watch sonny pruett drive one
were doing it to it like sonny pruitt
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Only Detroit Diesels were offered in GMC crackerboxes.6-71,6V-71, 8V-71 and there were some special order 12V-71 built.Trans options were 10 and 15 speed Roadrangers,5 speed with either 2 or 3 speed rears, 12 speed Spicer was also avaible. chocko.
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Used to be a guy up here in the Northeast that had one leased on to Hawk pulling a tanker.Real sharp looking.He was running it as late as 1989-90.That was the last I remember seeing it.Had it painted white with light green stripes if I can recall right.Polished aluminum wheels and stacks.Like I said,real sharp.
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| Rob, Remember the green and silver one that used to come up from somewhere down south ?.Real long wheelbase, five hole aluminum budds, straight pipe with a hot rod 6-71.Never saw it north of Portland, seem to remember it pulling a flatbed.Mel Clark bought it from him after it lost a piston going up the northbound grade for the Portsmouth bridge one day in the late '80s,early '90s.I saw it at Mel's when I stopped to visit one day and Mel told me the guy was outpulling a 425 cat when it let loose.Real sharp tractor.I know Mel took it with him when he moved up to Brownvill Jct., not sure what happened to it after he passed on.John
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| The first "Crackerboxes" (DLR 7000), introduced in late 58/ early 59, had air suspension on all four corners. There are four Crackerboxes pictured in the Hutchinson Showtime. A picture of Ron Hornoi's is attached. There are a few around, typically short money, unless restored. 
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| I'll try to put a couple of photos here. The green truck, a '67 model was at Troutman, NC in 2007. The blue one belongs to a gentleman in the Mason-Dixon chapter. Photo was taken at Winchester, VA in . It is a 1968 series 9500 truck. 
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The blue cracker box belongs to Fred Craig, of Lorton, VA That is Fred in the lower left portion of the picture. Fred has at least ten GMC's --all with Detroits, of course. AND, he also has a GMC coach.
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paul,check out the you tube of movin on ,episode #5 general delivery,where sonny is racing a cracker box against his truck,i love cracker boxes,only know of one locan,just sitting,its a wrecker,single axle,half cab,love to own it
were doing it to it like sonny pruitt
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