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My first vintage truck - 1975 Dodge C800 with 1954 Clough tanker

Posted By Obnoxs_Cory Thursday, December 12, 2019 9:17 AM
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My first vintage truck - 1975 Dodge C800 with 1954 Clough tanker

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Obnoxs_Cory
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Hey all,

I recently purchased my first vintage truck and it came with a tanker trailer behind it.
This was a come take it off our property kind of a deal and was lucky they found some old registration forms for both the truck and trailer from the 80's.
As far as I know now this is the info on the two:

1975 Dodge C800 (ID tag says it's a XC800, and haven't figure out what the X means)
Pretty sure it's a Chrysler 413 engine.
Road Ranger RT-610 (10 speed trans, no overdrive)
Ran when parked 3 years ago when tanker trailer started to leak.

1954 Clough Tanker trailer
Approximately 21 ft long
Used since 1980 to water the road ways at the campground I bought it from.

Plan is to sort of half restore the truck, make it safe to drive an operate, use it to tow a 3 car trailer, maybe a camper, and restore the tanker to take to events.

Questions I have for the group that I'm sure are questions that have been asked 100 times on here. Sorry, I'm new to vintage truck problems :)
1) Truck has split rims, how or can I convert the rims or hubs to a non split rim that can run tires that aren't super hard to find and tire shops will work on.
If there is no way to accomplish this, I will be looking into axle swapping it and I'm not 100% thrilled about that for originality sake, but wouldn't mind for usability sake.
2) The fun of how to register the truck and trailer, I think I know how to register the truck (any tips is appreciated) but i'm wondering if there's a way to register the trailer as a novelty trailer? I'm not hauling anything with it and it's just for show.
3) I have to get the truck and trailer State Patrol inspected to get a new title (3 year reg) and I'm wondering if I will have to convert the trailer to parking brake dual can. It's a single (application brake only) can setup on the trailer (pre 1975 law).
4) Any one know where I can find information on vintage Clough tanker's? I'm just starting to learn about them. I'm hearing it is a Seattle based company that went under. The VIN for the trailer is 3 digits long, so I'm assuming this is a very early production trailer by them. I'd like to learn more about them for historical/documentation sake for the trailer.

For reference, I work on new Kenworths and Peterbilts, so I love technical information if anyone is able to provide technical jargon answers. Unfortunately I only know new truck stuff, not vintage.
Thanks for any help people are able to provide. Some pictures below of where its been sitting for 3 years, and now the truck in front of my personal shop.

Geoff Weeks
 Posted Thursday, December 12, 2019 12:17 PM
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You can replace the 20" rims with 22.5" rims for spoke wheels. An 11x 22.5 tire is equlvent to a 10x 20 tire.
So you need all new rims and tires. but re-use the spacer and cleats now on the truck.
If the trailer was made prior to the spring brake was required, it is legal to run it as it was built.
Used spoke rims run $65 at my local yard and new are little more than twice that.
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Hey Corry! Are you a member of the ATHS? There should be a chapter in your area that could be helpful.
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Thanks for this information Geoff!!!
As I'm learning the old wheel lingo, is there a link to a wheel you are talking about you could provide so I can see what it would look like?
From there I can hopefully start looking for them around me or buy new if I have to.

Mike, I just got the truck, and I fully intend to join the group, pay for membership and all. I'm just getting through the holiday season before paying my fee.
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That's going to be a sharp setup, it will sound good with big pipes and small mufflers!
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Welcome. Very nice truck you have. Big gasser and a 10 speed.

I thought split "rims" were an earlier 3 piece wheel (split down the centre), not split "ring" wheels like you have with a outer ring.




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roKWiz (12/14/2019)
Welcome. Very nice truck you have. Big gasser and a 10 speed.

I thought split "rims" were an earlier 3 piece wheel (split down the centre), not split "ring" wheels like you have with a outer ring.




The true "split rim" was the Firestone RH 5 deg semi drop center wheel. (made in "Budd style" ) but many people call all lock ring wheels "split rims" so that adds to the confusion.
Nothing wrong with lock ring rims, but tires and tubes are getting hard to find, which has caused me to stop buying 10.00 R 20's. No problem if I am close to home, but finding a needed tube or flap on the road can cause some headaches. I still have 4 fresh caps to run out, then everything else will be tubeless.
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Yes nothing wrong with split ring wheels. I use them too on a few smaller trucks.




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Hey thanks everyone for the information and help!
I haven't been apart of a forum in probably close to a decade. Glad this one is pretty helpful so far and no one upset when I make mistakes like calling something the wrong name.

Really thankful for the link, thanks Geoff. Hopefully i'll be able to find some near me for cheap. It looks like my duels in the back aren't "split ring" (thanks for the clarification roKWiz and Geoff).
If so i will only have to replace the front wheels and call it good as far as converting anything goes.

So with the "split ring" wheels, are they not as dangerous as the real split rim that I've heard so much about being widow makers? I'm hesitant to try to remove my wheels until I understand the risks and procedures.
Nothing like seeing enough "shaking hands with danger" videos in college to make me hesitant around some of these old trucks.

I'm still wondering, with the tanker, can I register it some how that makes it not a commercial trailer. Mostly worried about them making me have to have a hazmat enforcement or something since it's a tanker.
I just want it to be a novelty item, if not I'm thinking of making the inside of the tank into a sleeping quarters so I can say it's a camper.

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