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1936 White dump truck

Posted By white lover Tuesday, October 08, 2019 8:58 AM
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Bruce Ohnstad
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59D front axle is listed in 1954 White models WC22 through WC26. It would be about an 8 or 10K pound axle. Those truck models had several front axles offered and I don't know what each axles' application or specialty was. The 501B transmission appears in a 1963 Motors chart as a Clark 270. The 501 is not listed in the 1955 Motors. Could it be a much later transmission installed?

What's the history of this truck? Could it have been rebuilt a few times?

Enclosed is my 1932 semi, 33K lbs GVW, 130 HP, 4+2 trans, planetary hub rear.

Bruce

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Hello friends ,urica ! I've found the stamped front axle's no.it says :59DAL19299. The "1929" are the first 4 digits of the vin.no.
Can it lead us to the truck's model ?
On the right side we have the letters " AAX",as a part of the metal cast , upside down. What does it all mean ?
Can someone help me with the CWTG web site , please.
Bruce , can you please post some photos of your 1932 White 643 ?

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I hope you can see it now....
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That's the stamped vin.no.
Are there any records that can tell the model by the vin.no.?
Thank you all ,
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That's the stamped vin.no.
Are there any records that can tell the model by the vin.no.?
Thank you all ,
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Hello all , thank you Bruce for your efforts.
No , there's no tag ,708 is my own wild guess I might be wrong as well. Is it possible that they built the 1936 with the fenders , radiator shell and grill of the W series ? That's what I have. It's confusing because on all the photos and brochures of 1936-7 model I've seen they come with different fenders , radiator shell , grill and headlamps ,like the Yellowstone buses.
Where exactly is the front axle's id.no.stamped ? There's no radius rods. Would springs measurements help solve the mystery?
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Do you have the radiator shell? 700 series had the radiator fill cap protrude above the shell. WA shell hid the fill cap inside the hood.

Bruce


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Is there a tag saying it's a 708? It's a 700 series cab with the vent and instrument panel. The WA cabs from 1939 to 45 had the same instrument panel. WB was quite different, and WC from that.

It could be that the rear axle was added later. The 82C axle is about a 16,000 lb axle. The bigger axles had regular springs or radius rod and spring. The axles and suspensions could interchange.

The front axle model would really narrow this down. The front axle model ended in D. Just two or three digits, for example, 18D. Stamped on a pad in the web of the I beam.


I have to dig deeper for a 501 transmission. White models 50 and 51 are in the standard books, but we need to find the total list.

Bruce

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Thank you Bruce ,you managed to clear part of the mist .the gear box is an original White.the cab has vent holes on the roof & in front of the upper part of the windshield both go into the tunnel on top .The dashboard is completly different than the W series.The truck has juice brakes ,it's GWT is 8 tons,my wild guess ,it's a 708.I hope the photos are clear enough...

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82C rear axle would be from the early to mid 1940s, single reduction. I found a build sheet of a 1942 WA 22 using a transmission model 501. I'll try to dig up the transmission models if it is a rebadged vendor transmission. I don't know if build sheets go back to 1936.

The 1936 era was the 700 series. 700 series cabs were similar to the later WA series cabs, the instrument panels were identical. Cab differences from 700 to WA may have been the roof ventilator above the windshield, and I don't know if the medium size 700 cowls had a top vent. Your cowl has the top vent, does it have the roof ventilator? Model 750 was pretty much the same chassis as the WA22.

Sorry about not getting on the CWTG website. The administrator is a volunteer and sifts through a lot of spams, so maybe is getting overloaded.

Bruce


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