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White "W" Bumper castings

Posted By Bill Hazzard Monday, April 08, 2019 3:17 AM
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Good picture, I don't have a picture of a factory circle backing plate.

By cracking I meant that if one bumper bar gets pushed more than the other bar, the W would get stressed with the backing bar in the center. With the later bent backing bars, a push on one bumper bar gets supported directly by the bent backing bar.

It might not be why the design changed, just my musing. I don't know if dimensions would be the same.

I need to create the entire bumper. With quarter inch thick, 3 inch wide spring steel, that will be a challenge. I might go 3/32" thick or use low carbon steel. I'm also planning to reduce the gap between the three layers so the bumper is a little more sleek.




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Bruce,
Here is a picture of the backing plate on this truck. There are also spacers between the W and the plate so there should not be an issue of cracking.

I would make the W's out of cast iron but so far you are the only one who has shown any interest. If I could sell a dozen, then it would make sense to do.

Bill
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Bill, I don't know much about the originals, but your picture looks like it is cast iron/steel. Will your repros be iron or aluminum?

There were two designs of the spring mounting strips behind the bumper. The earlier version, maybe 1928-30, used a straight mounting strip between the 2 exterior bumper strips. The center back strip supported the two bands with that circle strip. This led to cracking the W when pushed hard or hit. The later design, picture enclosed, had the backing strips bend from the center up to the upper bumper and another strip bend down to the lower strip.

I'm assuming the W would be the same, except for where the mounting screws that connected the W to either the circle or the bent backing strips.

I'd be interested in a couple W castings. I think there's enough demand for at least a few more. They make great decorations on the wall also. You might still have my contacts from years ago or reply through here.

Bruce




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I used to own the 1930 White 51AS dump truck which has been donated to a local museum. I know there used to be interest in the cast "W" that is on the front bumper of the truck and I am thinking about producing a small number of reproduction castings including the cast backing plate which also guides the hand starting crank. I don't have pricing yet but I am guessing that both castings would be in the $150 to $200 range. The castings would be iron. If anyone has interest, let me know.
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