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Posted By Drew Waller Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:04 PM
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I don't have the funds to start working my my White just yet, but I'm still in parts hunting mode none the less.  I'm fairly certain that I have a J-6 Cummins in it.  I bought a 1960 C and J series Cummins service manual and have been reading through it to brush up on what I'm up to under there since my diesel knowledge is fairly limited.

First, where is the serial number on the block?  I'm sure the manual said where to find it, but I don't remember seeing it.

Second, I imagine that I still have the wound wire bag unit style filter on there.  Does anyone make a spin-on filter adapter so that it will be easier to find parts in the future?

I'm led to believe that the Luberfiner is a 750 model, it has a 3-4" tall domed lid with a nut in the center.  I was told the Napa part # for the Donaldson dry-type air filter element (I have it written somewhere around here), and I'd think they'd have the Luberfiner filters too.

As for oil, I'm going to get a 5 gallon bucket of Shell Rotella T 15W-40 and a few quarts extra to have around.  The manual said that the crank case holds 4.5 gallons, and the luberfiner holds a gallon(?).

Last, is there a way to pre-prime the engine since its been sitting for 17 years?

Thanks guys (and gal)!


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30 wt engine oil.

I can't get anymore out of it, I've got both sticks hot clear up to the knobs allready.
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drew all the j series were bag type filters  the early c series was also bag type but the last of the c serie s had  a fleetguard lf 516  cartrige filter  if you want to convert to the later type[ which i strongly suggest] you will need a head an canister of a late c series that will bolt up to your j block  without any mods.to chech what you have the bag type canister attaches to the filter head with 4 3/8 bolts  the element type attaches with one long 1/2 bolt thru the centre of the canister 
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I'll crawl under the truck tonight to get a picture of the bottom side of the canister to see if it has a bolt going through it.  My '46 IH tractor has the cartridge filter with the bolt in the center, so I know what I'm looking for.  Would the 4 3/8" bolts go from the top side of the filter head down or from the canister side up?



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Thursday, October 28, 2010 11:16 AM by Drew Waller
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Drew,

webshots photos don't show up unless you have an acount with them and are signed in.

If I click on your links I get a 403 Error, access denied, this site requires you to log in.




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Eddy, I tried the links and got the 403 error as well.  Is a thumbnail that sends me to the webshots page ok?  I'll get some good pictures tonight/tomorrow morning and post them as attachments, that always seems to go better for me.

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If you get a full flow filter head to install make sure the oil flow in right and that it has a filter by/pass valve in it. There is a filter that takes place of the bag and spring that has a by/pass valve in it but if i remember right it was good for either flow.The paper element conversion is the one that requires the lines to be connected backwards.This is nspeaking of a 743 or eary 855 engine. But the oil flow has to be correct on a C model also. I have seen alot of engines starved for oil from guys replacing the leaking lines and could not remember how they go.

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I got a chance this morning to take a few pictures this morning.  They're not the best because they're from my phone.  Genius me left my good camera in my desk at school.

It has four bolts around the top threaded down towards the ground.  Underneath looking up, I can see the ends of the bolts through the edges of the canister flange.  On the bottom end of the canister there is no nut to take the canister off, so it looks like I have the bag style filter in there.

The engine was rebuilt sometime in the mid/late 80s, could it be possible that there is another type of filter in there other than the wire mesh type?


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could it be possible that there is another type of filter in there other than the wire mesh type?

Yes that filter can be same as the filter that went inside of the oil pan but the head has a adapter inside that the paper filter goes up in and the adapter looks like trhe end of the spool which the bag goes on. This head will have the in and out turned around for the oil flow. I hate to see guys playing with them that was not around them when used. It is too easy to starve a engine of oil if lines are not connect properly. There is also a filter that will replace the spool and spring bag set up which has by/pass valve inside the filter. This filter would be used on both flows and made by badwin.Dont have a # but some one will know what i am saying.Hope that makes some sense.If this filter has no lines i would not install a different filter in it not knowing the flow on it in relation to the flow of the head.


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